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I've heard that there is a new demon codex coming out later this year. does anyone know more information about this? I already know that coming with it is a plastic generic greater demon but what I really want to know is if the Demon Prince can get a power sword in this codex.
 

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does this mean that if theis codex comes out that deamons will be a whole different race?
 

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Sayes in white dwarf
"Codex Demonica is already in developement. To include all twenty or so daemonic troop types would have required loads more space in the chaos codex thats aready 104 pages in length. This way the focus remains on the chaos and the demons will get their own army."
So maybe.

Just hopefully you can still feild things from the demon codex in a chaos army without too much hassle
 

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From the rumours I've heard, they're supposed to be mostly uncompatible.

I already know that coming with it is a plastic generic greater demon but what I really want to know is if the Demon Prince can get a power sword in this codex.
I take it you're not aware the Prince doesn't need a powersword to ignore armour saves? Reread the Monstrous Creature rules, you'll see the power weapon is mostly redundant.
 

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i dont want them all to be separate i think deamons go great with the whole chaos theme , plus then id have to totally rething my developing chaos army
 

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i also heard that the individual chaos factions are getting their own codicies...is there any truth to that?
no. that would be way too much work im afraid. the CSM codex allows plenty of customisation, esp combined with daemon release and your own imagination.
 

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From the rumours I've heard, they're supposed to be mostly uncompatible.
That can't be right, from what I've heard codex daemonica is just special rules for the demons (or thats my understanding anyway) with a few extra units but the armies can be put together like Which hunters and space marines.
 

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sounds cool but it wouldnt make sense for chaos marines and daemons to be uncompatible as in the fluff chaos spawn lots of daemons a lot of the time :biggrin:
 

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From what I can tell and after asking WW they are compatible it was they thought it was unfair to cut such a rich part of the universe down just to save space so they decided to give daemons there own codex, so now I'm eagerly awaiting that to finish my army and praying to all the gods that they include better rules for chaos marine daemon princes as at the moment it looks like using a terminator lord is better
 

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I think they do that just to get more money. I am mad about that. whatever
 

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Jervis gave a seminar at one of the GT heats at which he said that the 2 books would not be compatible. GW are making a point of not doing add on codexes any more, as you can see by stuff like the marine books all being done as full lists in one book. Effectively, this means that a totally new army is getting added to 40k.

This approach was more or less backed by the tournament players present, as it has often been these add on lists (whether in seperate books like Ulthwe or appendixes like Ulthwe) that have caused problems in the past. Better to have full lists that have been properly playtested as stand alone armies than mix and match army lists where you can cherry pick combos that were never originally intended.

In normal play you can do what you like so long as your opponent agrees. I imagine that in apocalypse people will be using CSM, daemons, renegade guard and titans pretty much as they like.
 

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It's rather Ironic, the most favoured of the Chaos deities won't have access to their respective daemonic support. I wonder what bullshit excuse GW will try to explain this away with?

"What do you mean I can't summon these plaguebearers? Dude, I'm fucking Typhus!"
 

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But chaos can still get demons but just not god specific demons wich i agree suks. Like I said before Demon Hunters and Which hunters can join space marine and imperial armies so it SHOULD be the same as that but if not GW migh get a riot on their hands.....
 

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Yep in apocalypse you can have a combination, but not in normal games. TWO separate things :angry:
 

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Yeah but didnt they break that rule with Daemonhunter & Witchhunters, inducted marines and imperial guard, and the limited units are now available from them to other armies?

I can't see them not letting the respective deities not have their proper minions, it most likely would be that they can only have their respective daemonic minions, but then again this is mostly speculation. This would be nice if they did allow chaos or even traitor legions to take daemonic minions like daemonhunters can take inductecd guard, etc... though.
 

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from what iv heard from GW staff is that the 2 codecies are compatable , but its scaring me from what im hearing from u guys. chaos, WITHOUT DEAMONS, GW must be kidding themselves if they think players will accept that.
 

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from what iv heard from GW staff is that the 2 codecies are compatable , but its scaring me from what im hearing from u guys. chaos, WITHOUT DEAMONS, GW must be kidding themselves if they think players will accept that.
You should keep in mind that the GW staff at a store in general really don't have much of a clue over you when it comes to anything, rules or rumours. They get at best the codexes a a couple of months ahead of release. People at Warseer however (Brimstone) get their information a lot quicker with friends in the right places.

And then there's the issue of something supposedly straight out of a lead designer's mouth saying "your codex is going to shit".

Jervis gave a seminar at one of the GT heats at which he said that the 2 books would not be compatible.
I mean, that's pretty hard to argue with beyond an outright accusation of somebody lieing.
 
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