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Dig the rumours about the upcoming models for Chaos:

Games Day France approaches, and we have some interesting news about Chaos for Warhammer 40K. Perhaps we’ll see some new models for the army, but some of the new features will be as follows:

Terminators, which will be plastic, will include wargear/mutations that will attach to the model’s armor. This means that the sets will not require an additional mutations sprue like there is now.

Also, Possessed will be redone in plastic. In addition they will include many interesting components, for example backpacks that can be modified with daemonic wings, and many more.

Also, the range of daemons will be completely redone and the old ones will be discontinued. The daemons are entirely new and will be all plastic.

Therefore, as we can see there will be much news of plastics for the new Chaos range, and it is very probable we will see pictures soon.
The CSM box will go up in number and there will be a sprue for demon icons. One per god and one for undivided. It will also go up in price.
 

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I would be surpised if they re-did the possessed as the new ones only came out last year. If the daemons are being redone in plastic that will make a lot of WFB players very happy as well.
 

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The new metal Possessed are failing, sale-wise, all over from what I understand.
 

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i. fucking. dig.

has anyone mentioned the plastic spawn? i noticed something on warseer about it, seems pretty concrete.
 

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They do look like they were made in the dark!.
 

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I love all the ideas presented in rumor, and am looking forward to seeing this new Chaos stuff. Hopefully we'll see rules for a dreadclaw also since we have drop pods now.

Plastic demons I'm happy seeing, I think they'll be one piece bodies like most Fantasy models with seperate arms, but I might be wrong. I'm really looking forward to what they can do with Chaos Terminators. Loyalists had to be divided into two boxes though, what kind of box set or sets would we be looking at for all the stuff that Chaos can have?
 

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Re: New Chaos Rumors

The Wraithlord said:
Dig the rumours about the upcoming models for Chaos:

Games Day France approaches, and we have some interesting news about Chaos for Warhammer 40K. Perhaps we’ll see some new models for the army, but some of the new features will be as follows:

Terminators, which will be plastic, will include wargear/mutations that will attach to the model’s armor. This means that the sets will not require an additional mutations sprue like there is now.

Also, Possessed will be redone in plastic. In addition they will include many interesting components, for example backpacks that can be modified with daemonic wings, and many more.

Also, the range of daemons will be completely redone and the old ones will be discontinued. The daemons are entirely new and will be all plastic.

Therefore, as we can see there will be much news of plastics for the new Chaos range, and it is very probable we will see pictures soon.
This is all awsome news, too good to be true hmmmmmm :evil:
 

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Plastic daemons :yay: as always with these things I will wait and see before I get too excited. Whats the current release schedule/rumour on the CSM stuff?
Current rumours put the new Chaos book as being out for September so this should be a Chaos summer I would think. And as mentioned, there is a large rumour about plastic Chaos spawn out there, complete with mutation sprues and containing 2 Spawn per sprue. Don't think this one has been verified yet though.
 

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It will be good to see some Possessed mini's that don't like they have been sculpted by a 2 year old on Crsytal Meth/P/Ice.

Those Chaos termies are going to be intersting as will the deamons, I'm sure the Termies will blow our minds but im not sure about the Deamons. I'm not a fan of single figure sculpts.
 

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Take with salt but cool stuff nonetheless:

Here are a few highlights:

-Marks are simpler, ie Khorne gives +1 attack, Slaanesh +1 Initiative, Nugle +1 Toughness, and Tzeentch +1 armor save and a 5+ invulnerable save.

-Troops - there are normal marines as troops as well as legion specific ones. Only the legion specific marines get access to legion specific weapons.

- Havocs can take marks but only get normal weapons (i.e. no blastmaster havoc squads for EC anymore).

- There are no mark restrictions on taking units. This means you could have a Khorne lord, a squad of noise marines, Nurgle Havocs , a squad of Obliterators (which are now Heavy Support) and a Vindicator.

- Yup, the Vindicator has been added as an option for everyone and the Basilisk for Iron Warriors is removed entirely.

-To make up for this, Dreads move to Elites so if you IW players want to pack in the heavy weapons you still can.




New models:
-I got to see one of the new plastic terminators in the flesh and it looks pretty cool. Though the trophy spikes on the shoulders were a bit long for my tastes, the rest of the model was very well done. About the same size as the new plastic Marine terminators, this will make a lot of people very happy.



From the pictures in the book:
- The new plastic Posessed look much cooler than the current ones (not that that is much of a feat).

- The new Raptor lord is a lot more dynamic and, though I only saw the picture for a bit, seems a bit more in proportion and not as cartoony.

-The new plastic Chaos Lord is absolutely amazing. It has a ton of cool bits and can be made to look like any one of the chaos powers and they all looked good. All the options here will keep the converters buy for a long time to come.

-The plastic Vindicator is almost exactly like the Forgeworld one with maybe a few minor changes. I'm not totally familiar with the FW model, so suffice it to say they look basically the same to me.

-Finally, there is a new plastic spawn kit that comes with enough bits to make two full spawn. One of them looks really cool with no head and a big eye in its chest. The other I didn't look at as much because the first one was so pretty, but it was much closer to the "lots of random appendages" we are used to.


Sorry for not getting more but that's all I can remember right now. I probably won't get to look at it again, but if anything comes back to me, I'll definitely post it here.

Oh, one more, since I am putting together Emporer's Children, I made it a point to look up their stuff.

One really good thing is that that fixed the Doom Siren to just be a flamer with no hand requirement. No more Doomfists, thank god.

Also the Slaanesh psychic power is just sick. If you past a psychic test, you can pick a unit (I think within 24", might be less, I don't remember for sure) and you can move it 2d6" in any direction.

Enjoy.
 

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Little bit more from a different source:

hmmm : here's what I've been told.

marks for normal troops are : K+1A. S+1I,N+1T,T=5+invuln save.

The Full cult troops ( world eaters, 1000 sons etc ) : WE= furious charge, 1oos sons= 4+ invulnerable save, option of ap3 inferno bolts, and are led by a sorceror who ( just the sorcerpr HQ choice ) comes with a force weapon. Oh, if he dies then their slow & purp. roll drops to 1d6. Deathguard=feel no pain....and Emps. children.....sorry, minds gone blank.

Oblits are heavy: supposedly they might be due to the techno organic virus OR they might be fallen/corrupted techmarines/adepts, who tap into the warp in some way. Down to S & T 4, and lose projectile type weapons ( heavy bolter etc) but can shoot pretty much any energy weapon --plasma-both,multi-both, flamer etc etc.

Ahriman has all the powers and a force weapon. think Abaddon can take all his attaks with his bif *&^% off sword however think it "only" wounds with no save now !

Chosen as elites are a separate slot from termies, think chosen get infiltrate-might get other options, they're similar to vets. from the DA.

Think daemonic possession was the same but dropped BS down to 3.
 

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I think, and i probably speak for all chaos players, we're dancing like the lunatics we are at the sound of plastic models being made! and a chaos vindicator... cool :eek:
 

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we'll add some more to the pile.. some good, some real bad...

"Well all I know is what is written. As written its the official codex with nothing about there being another one later

IN ADDITION

I saw the NEW chaos codex AND the new apoc book

I honestly didnt read much of either because by the time Im interested they'll be released. However I got some info on tzeentch and some other random tidbits

Marks are being streamlined with very little funky rules. Khorne is +1A, Nurgle +1T, Slaanesh +1I and tzeentch is +1armor save (In addition thousand son marines can get a S5, AP3 bolter for 26pts a model)

BAD NEWS about demons. ALL demons are being removed from the codex and being replaced with "Lesser Demons" which do not take up a spot on the force org chart yet ALL have the same stats. However, they didnt look completely done so its *possible* they may get marks or something to make them unique. At present they were simply lesser demons with same stats for all gods

GREATER DEMONS - Do NOT cost a force org slot and are summoned via the current rules. Basically same

HQs are broken down into Lt, Lord, Demon prince and each have unique options. There is NO armory in the new codex

I could have looked at the whole codex, and unfortunately I couldnt get a copy because of how many issues that would cause

Havocs can have heavy or special weapons 4x

Apoc book. DUE OUT OCTOBER (Chaos is september and New ork codex is christmas). Crazy vehicles in there. Again, I didnt really look at it but MOST of the forgeworld units got massive upgrades and bigger versions were added

One of the eldar options was a different holofield which allows the super heavy to either move 12 and fire everything. Move 12 +D6 and fire main gun or move 24 +2d6 and fire no guns.

Thats all I really read from there unfortunately but the book is *done* and slated for october

Edit - One thing I do remember is that there is no force org chart at all in apoc book.. You use whatever you can afford"
 

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I can see their reasoning behind the Deamons but it doesn't mean I like it. :evil:

And what the "no armory" is about I have no idea.

This is going to be very interesting. Good news about the orks though.
 
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