[KeXun]

So been working on this list for about a week now let me now what u think

+++ Chaos 1800 (1800pts) +++
+++ 1800pt Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012), Chaos Daemons: Codex (2013) Roster (Combined Arms Detachment, Allied Detachment)) +++

Selections:

Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (200pts)

* Sorcerer (200pts)
(Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Psyker)
2x Additional Mastery Level, Aura of dark glory, Mark of Nurgle, Spell familiar
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, The Black Mace


+ Elites + (110pts)

* Helbrute (110pts)
(Crazed)
Missile launcher w/ frag + krak, Multi-melta


+ Troops + (495pts)

* Chaos Cultists (50pts)
(Champion of Chaos)
Champion's upgrade, 10x Squad models (champion included)


* Chaos Space Marines (240pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine, Flamer, Flamer, Mark of Nurgle, 7x Replace Bolter with CCW
* Aspiring Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist
* Chaos Rhino
(Repair)
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers


* Chaos Space Marines (205pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Meltagun
* Aspiring Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon


+ Fast Attack + (375pts)

* Chaos Bikers (70pts)
2x Chaos Biker
* Chaos Biker Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, CCW


* Heldrake (170pts)
(Daemon, Daemonforge, It Will Not Die, Meteroric Descent)
Baleflamer


* Raptors (135pts)
(Fear)
2x Flamer, Mark of Nurgle, 4x Raptor
* Raptor Champion
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


+ Heavy Support + (205pts)

* Defiler (205pts)
(Daemon, Daemonforge, Fleet, It Will Not Die)
Daemonic possession, Havoc Launcher, Reaper Autocannon, Warpflame gargoyles


Chaos Daemons: Codex (2013) (Allied Detachment) Selections:

+ (No Category) +

* Warp Storm Table
(*)


+ HQ + (325pts)

* Daemon Prince (325pts)
(Daemonic Instability, Deep Strike)
D6 Daemonic Reward (Greater Magic Weapons, Greater Rewards), D6 Exalted Daemonic Reward (Exalted Rewards, Hellforged Artefacts), Daemonic Flight
* Daemon of Nurgle
(Hatred (Daemon of Tzeencth), Shrouded, Slow & Purposeful)
Daemon (5+ Invulnerable Save, Fear), Psyker Level 3 (Plague Discipline)


+ Troops + (90pts)

* Plaguebearers of Nurgle (90pts)
(Daemonic Instability, Deep Strike)
10x Plaguebearers
* Daemon of Nurgle
(Hatred (Daemon of Tzeencth), Shrouded, Slow & Purposeful)
Daemon (5+ Invulnerable Save, Fear)

 

[Mossy Toes]

* Sorcerer (200pts)
(Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Psyker)
2x Additional Mastery Level, Aura of dark glory, Mark of Nurgle, Spell familiar
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, The Black Mace

I'm not a big fan of the Black Mace on the sorc, since he already has a force weapon that should be his go-to weapon for killing big nasties, and AP4 is very limited against a lot of foes (vs the AP2 the Mace would be on a DP, thanks to Smash). Also, I'd try to upgrade that AoDG to a SoC if possible...

* Helbrute (110pts)
(Crazed)
Missile launcher w/ frag + krak, Multi-melta

I'm not a fan of two-shooty or two-melee 'Brutes, but run it if you like--and pray that you won't roll the melee Crazed result. Honestly, I realize it's a pretty small chance, but...

* Chaos Space Marines (240pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine, Flamer, Flamer, Mark of Nurgle, 7x Replace Bolter with CCW
* Aspiring Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist
* Chaos Rhino
(Repair)
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers

No dirge caster on the rhino? I'd consider that important. And perhaps another rhino on the other squad of CSM, if possible...

* Chaos Bikers (70pts)
2x Chaos Biker
* Chaos Biker Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, CCW

Jam 2 special weapons on these guys or don't take them, I say. 2 melta are excellent on a 3-biker suicide unit--zipping into place to crack a tank.

* Defiler (205pts)
(Daemon, Daemonforge, Fleet, It Will Not Die)
Daemonic possession, Havoc Launcher, Reaper Autocannon, Warpflame gargoyles

Drop this guy for a Soul Grinder, I say--not to hard a conversion, model-wise, but significantly cheaper in points and AV 13 front and side--much better than a Defiler, and you already have the HS slot in your allied detachment available:

180 - Soul Grinder w/ Daemon of Nurgle and Phlegm Bombardment

* Daemon Prince (325pts)
(Daemonic Instability, Deep Strike)
D6 Daemonic Reward (Greater Magic Weapons, Greater Rewards), D6 Exalted Daemonic Reward (Exalted Rewards, Hellforged Artefacts), Daemonic Flight
* Daemon of Nurgle
(Hatred (Daemon of Tzeencth), Shrouded, Slow & Purposeful)
Daemon (5+ Invulnerable Save, Fear), Psyker Level 3 (Plague Discipline)

What are you going for here? Grimoire, to buff the Heldrake, etc? If so, certainly workable, and the 2+ jinking DP of Nurgle is fun. I would consider rolling all powers on Biomancy for shots at Endurance and Iron Arm, though, rather than taking Plague powers.

* Plaguebearers of Nurgle (90pts)
(Daemonic Instability, Deep Strike)
10x Plaguebearers
* Daemon of Nurgle
(Hatred (Daemon of Tzeencth), Shrouded, Slow & Purposeful)
Daemon (5+ Invulnerable Save, Fear)

If you want to support your psykers, consider swapping these guys out for 11 Horrors, which would generate 2 more warp charge for you. Still, Plaguebearers are good for chipping away hull points with touch of rust and putting wounds on high-Toughness opponents with poisoned, so there's basically nothing in the game they can't eventually rot their way through, provided they aren't all killed or suffer a terrible Instability test.

You could consider dropping the Daemons allies to get a DP with the Black Mace in the place of your sorc... but then that means no Soul Grinder, which makes Mossy sad.

Still, looks like a decent list--I hope you don't mind my intrusive little ideas for tweaks!

 

[KeXun]

no problem with the twiks or anything thats y i post my lists here to fine tune them

 

[Mossy Toes]

fair enough!

 

[neferhet]

mossy has it on the spot. nothing to add to what he says. Also, please, lets ban all those "army builders". they just make it hard to read and review a list with so much unneeded crap