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Just a couple of strange rules questions that I need to debate/find a consensus.

1.) Scarab swarms move like a jetbike, and have the turbo boost rule, despite not being a jetbike. So on a turbo boost they get a 3+ cover save. They also have a cover save modifier for being a small target.

So do they get a 2+ cover save after turbo-boosting?

2.) Lightning Field says for every wound inflicted, return a str 3 hit.

Does inflicted mean for every wound that is rolled as a wound on the unit,
or every wound that was necessary to destroy the unit?
(had a few arguments on this one. seems the general feeling is that it means any roll to wound that wounds is returned.)

[The Below Rules Question Is Ridiculous, Sorry In Advance]

Ok. The Necron Faq states this about WBB rolls:

"Q: When do you remove necrons that fail their WBB roll?"
"A: Necrons who fail their WBB roll are removed unless you intend to use a Monolith portal to teleport the unit during the current move"

And the Necron Codex says this:

"At the start of every Necron turn, damaged Necrons may self-repair. roll a d6 for every Necron capable of self-repair [meaning every damaged necron within 6" of a necron unit of the same type]."

So my question is this crazy technicality I'm trying to catch the rules on,

if you have a monolith in play at the beginning of your turn, you make your WBB rolls and then when the check would be made to remove failed WBB, you state the intention to teleport that unit, meeting the one criteria you must meet, which is having a necron monolith in play or in reserves, then does it work to say that if for some reason you are unable to portal that unit because you're monolith can not make it to within 18" range or come in from reserves,

Do the "damaged" necrons that were not removed that are now still on the board in the movement phase allowed to We'll be back roll at the beginning of the next turn, because they meet the criteria for:

"At the start of every Necron turn, damaged Necrons may self-repair", which indicates that a damaged (knocked down) necron may self-repair, and since the check to remove the necron from play did not in fact remove it, as per the rules allowing you to keep it on the field could it now attempt another WBB roll?

Now before you rage on me understand that I know for game purposes I know it sounds ridiculous, but following logic as the tool that both created and keeps the rules of the game working, doesn't it follow logic to say that this is how the game rules indicate this sequence of events could work, despite the fact that it makes no sense in-game?

Sorry if I rage anyone with this question. :D
 

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1: Yes.

2: Every wound the unit takes.

3: No, they must be removed. If you are going to use the portal to resurrect them, it must be on that turn. Failing to do so forfeits those casualties and the opportunity is lost.
 

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1: Yes.

2: Every wound the unit takes.

3: No, they must be removed. If you are going to use the portal to resurrect them, it must be on that turn. Failing to do so forfeits those casualties and the opportunity is lost.
Show me a citation if I am incorrect, but between the codex and faq
[http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA...m1180146_Necrons_FAQ_2004-08_5th_Edition.pdf]
doesn't it not clearly state that he only time a damaged necron will be removed from the board is checked after wbb rolls are made, and if a wbb roll is failed, that model is removed from play (the table), with the exception that it may stay in play, if you intend to portal it [Which we assume if you intend to you must also be able to, and the only thing that dictates whether or not you're able to is if you have a monolith AND it is in range, but since you are not allowed to pre-measure the distance to the monolith, it's safe to say you can leave it "damaged" on the board instead of removing it, and possibly not be ABLE to portal it, even if you INTENDED to do so], then is it not left on the table until the next check is made to remove it, and that would be the next WBB roll, regardless of whether or not it is from portaling with the monolith, or at the beginning of the next necron turn?
 

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The Necron codex states at the end of the movement phase you remove the failed WBB models. Read the last sentence under the Monolith porting rules.

Plus it says in several phases that the unit "phases out" and it also says that "phase out" causes you to auto-lose regardless of the mission parameters. If you get rules crazy, so will others... lol
 

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Necron Codex:: Page 21:: Monolith::

In regards to "portaling units"
"If you intend to use the portal in this way during a turn then leave models that failed to self-repair on their sides until the end of the movement phase".

So I guess it's a replacement effect stating that:
"If a model fails WBB remove it unless you intend to portal, and if you intend to portal, the removal check is now made at the end of the movement phase, rather than during the WBB "phase" as it were.

That's really too bad... I was having a lot of fun thinking about all the ways I could agitate my buddies down at the shop with this.
 
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