[Glasqul]

HQ
Eldrad


Sum 210

Avatar of Khaine

Sum 155

Elite
Harlequins x 6
Fusion pistols x 2
Shadowseer
Kisses x 6
Sum 182


Fire Dragons x 6
Exarch
Fire Pike
Sum 116

Troop
Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm
Wave serpent
Bright lance

Sum 287

Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm

Sum 152

Heavy support
Falcon
Bright lance
Spirit stones
Sum 155

War Walkers x 2
Scatter lasers x 4
Sum 120

War Walkers x 2
Scatter lasers x 4
Sum 120

Total 1497


This is my first draft of a 1500 points Eldar list. I have made it from available models at the moment. What do you think? Should I get another Wave serpent for the last DA squad? Any units I should replace?

My plan is to put the FD in the Falcon and hunt for tanks. The footslogging DA unit, Avatar and Eldrad will walk up the board togheter with the WW and clear objectives/ hold them.
The last DA squad in the WS will get an objective and try to hold it.

The Quins will counter attack any assault units, or join Eldrad and the Avatar for som nasty cc damage.
Will use Eldrad to assist the Walkers, Quins and Avatar as a priority,but will also use him where he is needed.


Best regards
Robin

 

[Stephen_Newman]

If the falcon is for transport duty then drop the lance and pick either a scatter laser or shuriken cannon. Then add holo-fields as they dramatically increase the life of the vehicle.

Second drop the fusion pistols for the harlies and instead pick the troupe master upgrade. Definately makes the squad more killy as the pistols are so short ranged.

I would drop the avatar for a second serpent with twin lances, spirit stones and a dhuriken cannon.

 

[Niffty]

HQ
Eldrad


Sum 210

Avatar of Khaine

"HQ seems solid to me, and is what I tend to use at 1500. Some might suggest dropping the Avatar, but I find him to be a good fire magnet and very destructive when he reaches the enemy. Problem is keeping both him and the harlies buffed will use up all his powers a turn, but then again they will destroy a lot in CC

Sum 155

Elite
Harlequins x 6
Fusion pistols x 2
Shadowseer
Kisses x 6
Sum 182

Don't use them, but with this setup I've seen them deal a nasty punch, especially when Eldrad is tagging along.


Fire Dragons x 6
Exarch
Fire Pike
Sum 116
there's no reason to field 6 of these guys, 5 will reduce anything to slag in short order. I never use the firepike on the exarch because in general they shouldn't be farther than 6 inches from a tank when the disembark. So dropping the pike and the extra guy will give you point to play with elsewhere. Also while you can mount them in a Falcon, I tend to keep the falcon away from the main enemy force strafing them with fire where needed. You can send this into the fray w/ the dragons, but it might cut on its lifespan. Try it and see how it works for you .

Troop
Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm
Wave serpent
Bright lance

Sum 287

Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm

Sum 152

You're troop choices seem solid. At 1500 i like to have at least one more unit of troops. Usually a small unit of jetbikes to grab objectives or go tank hunting in rear armor w/ their shurikan cannons.

Heavy support
Falcon
Bright lance
Spirit stones
Sum 155

War Walkers x 2
Scatter lasers x 4
Sum 120

War Walkers x 2
Scatter lasers x 4
Sum 120

As for your heavy choices, I find a bright lance on a falcon a waste of points. Its point heavy, and with the tanks BS of 3 it'll hit only half the time. I go scatter laser or ELM. The extra shoots/ the chance to scatter on the ELM can deal with infantry, while the pulse/ krak missile can take tanks if need be. Holofields are a MUST. They'll make you take so much hard to bring down. I'd forgo the spirit stone for it. This plays with the falcons trait of being a jack of all trades.

I don't use war walkers, but I hear that scatter lasers or ELM are best on them. Don't have the book on me, but if they can outflank or scout then I can see their usefulness. I'd consider dropping one unit, and pay a bit for more for a wraithlord, to add some MC strength and BS 4 to your command.

 

[Grinnsira]

Niffty has a lot of good points. I think a wraithlord walking up with your hq/harly kill squads would rock. If you want 6 dragons fine, but I have found that the exarch is good for tank hunter abilities but not the firepike. I would almost drop both the exarch and warwalker set to field a wraithlord. As for the Falcon the EML works best in my mind. Its a str 8 or str 4 def weapon if you move 12". I just dont know much about Harly's.

Hope this helps

 

[Glasqul]

If the falcon is for transport duty then drop the lance and pick either a scatter laser or shuriken cannon. Then add holo-fields as they dramatically increase the life of the vehicle.

Will do. bought it second hand and it was already equiped with the lance, but will remodel it.

Second drop the fusion pistols for the harlies and instead pick the troupe master upgrade. Definately makes the squad more killy as the pistols are so short ranged.

I can see your point regarding the pistols, but the TM for 20 only to get a power weapon?

I would drop the avatar for a second serpent with twin lances, spirit stones and a dhuriken cannon.

hmmm, my shiny Avatar :shok: Will consider it.

HQ seems solid to me, and is what I tend to use at 1500. Some might suggest dropping the Avatar, but I find him to be a good fire magnet and very destructive when he reaches the enemy. Problem is keeping both him and the harlies buffed will use up all his powers a turn, but then again they will destroy a lot in CC

Will be taken into consideration.

Fire Dragons
there's no reason to field 6 of these guys, 5 will reduce anything to slag in short order. I never use the firepike on the exarch because in general they shouldn't be farther than 6 inches from a tank when the disembark. So dropping the pike and the extra guy will give you point to play with elsewhere. Also while you can mount them in a Falcon, I tend to keep the falcon away from the main enemy force strafing them with fire where needed. You can send this into the fray w/ the dragons, but it might cut on its lifespan. Try it and see how it works for you .

Will reduce the squad to 5.

You're troop choices seem solid. At 1500 i like to have at least one more unit of troops. Usually a small unit of jetbikes to grab objectives or go tank hunting in rear armor w/ their shurikan cannons.

Will see what I can go, will try to get the points for either a ranger squad or some jetbikes.

As for your heavy choices, I find a bright lance on a falcon a waste of points. Its point heavy, and with the tanks BS of 3 it'll hit only half the time. I go scatter laser or ELM. The extra shoots/ the chance to scatter on the ELM can deal with infantry, while the pulse/ krak missile can take tanks if need be. Holofields are a MUST. They'll make you take so much hard to bring down. I'd forgo the spirit stone for it. This plays with the falcons trait of being a jack of all trades.

Will as mentioned earlies replace the lance. When the lance is away, it will be easier to get the holo field too.

I don't use war walkers, but I hear that scatter lasers or ELM are best on them. Don't have the book on me, but if they can outflank or scout then I can see their usefulness. I'd consider dropping one unit, and pay a bit for more for a wraithlord, to add some MC strength and BS 4 to your command.

I will see where the points get me. Would love to get a Wraitlord into my force. I have seen a guy I know play with 3 walkers with scatterlasers, actually played against them, they are realy naste if you get them in cover and give them guide.

Niffty has a lot of good points. I think a wraithlord walking up with your hq/harly kill squads would rock. If you want 6 dragons fine, but I have found that the exarch is good for tank hunter abilities but not the firepike. I would almost drop both the exarch and warwalker set to field a wraithlord. As for the Falcon the EML works best in my mind. Its a str 8 or str 4 def weapon if you move 12". I just dont know much about Harly's.

Hope this helps

Will try to squeeze in a wraithlord.


Thanks everybody, very useful!
Will try to tweak my list a bit taken your hints and tips into consideration.

Much appriciated!


Best regards
Robin

 

[Glasqul]

Ok, take two. Have created two different lists, one with additional troops, and one with a WraithLord.

More Troops

HQ
Eldrad


Sum 210

Avatar of Khaine

Sum 155

Elite
Harlequins x 6
Shadowseer
Kisses x 6
Sum 162


Fire Dragons x 5

Sum 80

Troop
Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm
Wave serpent
Bright lance

Sum 287

Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
Bladestorm

Sum 147

Jetbikes x 3
Warlock
Destructor

Sum 121


Heavy support
Falcon
holo-field
Shuriken cannon
Sum 155

War Walkers x 3
Scatter lasers x 6
Sum 180



Total 1497



With Wraithlord


HQ
Eldrad


Sum 210

Avatar of Khaine

Sum 155

Elite
Harlequins x 6
Shadowseer
Kisses x 6
Sum 162


Fire Dragons x 5

Sum 80

Troop
Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
2 x catapults
Bladestorm
Wave serpent
Bright lance

Sum 287

Dire Avengers x 10
Exarch
Bladestorm

Sum 147


Heavy support
Falcon
holo-field
Scatter laser
Sum 165

War Walkers x 3
Scatter lasers x 6
Sum 180

Wraithlord
2 x Shuriken cannons
Sum 110


Total 1496

Hmm, might try a list without the Avatar to boost the other choices and maybe add a ranger squad as well.


Best regards
Robin