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My boyz of the green tide. Progress, but mainly please advise me thread ;)

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#1 · (Edited)
So a few first thing firsts... Some lovely admin may have to resize them for me;).. (oh no its ok.. ooo who knew i was technical!)

I am rather shiny and new to the hobby, and these pictures below are here as they do not yet deserve a place in the gallery. I have only been doing this for just under a month, so I know that I have a lot to learn.
I am buildingup the ranks of my ork army, aiming to try for a rather mixed approach, but for the time being a green tide of infantry. I will pop up a point list ater for those that are interested :D
The pictures that follow are from models throughout the course of this first month, so i am showing you the warts and all learning curve that i am on.. its bloody steep too. i am learning as i go, making the mistakes means i am able to push myself on from them, so as it stands i will not repaint those that infuriate me, as i need to be able to look at them and realise the problem areas.

One thing i have already learned.. get a better camera! so sorry in advance. Secondly it is only when you zoom right in that i now realise just how much more work should of been lavished on my boyz, but gutting as it is, it has also pushed me forward into now knowing just how far i really do need to improve.
I thought my higlighting on brow ridges etc was improving, until i zooomed in with this camera... i would .ike to say it is the camera and light quality not picking up the tiny details.. but i think i would be fooling myself!

I know it is all personal preference and choice, but I like my boyz a non neon green, rather than mixing up a pot of pre mix, i tend to do each model at a time, as i like the effect of the differing colour range of greens, from dark and muddy, to sickly yellow. To me it is more of an organic realism... they dont have the luxury of standard issue regimented armour, and all skin tones, alien to human differ underneath. But that is just my taste...

I am self taught and have yet to take up the invitation to attend a gw for help... so please any advice or criticism is appericated as it helps me learn.
I struggle with frustration at not being able to base them as they deserve, and goggles and reflected glass or all types!
currently i free hand all my checks and dags, but i am thinking about attempting placing transfers on at the base coat stage and see how this turns out, as i will be able to weather and 'scratch' them up. At the moment i think the wobbly lines and mismatched sizes of checks lends itself well to the imgae of a big crushy bashy thick orkz fingers painting them onto a buddys armour. (you do realise that is just an excuse dont you?)

This is my very first character away from painting boyz. It is a painboy. I tried to aim to go for a sickly yellow tone on the skin. with a slight lobotomy scar peeping out from under his hat. I now see I should of done differing tones in the blood spatter.



 
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#31 ·
We won't regret it if you need help and I'll offer to help as well.

You have a nice start going there and you will get better as you do this more often. I think you are doing great so far. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more of your stuff.
 
#32 · (Edited)
So far looks good, even if it is a bit light for my taste( I prefer my orks to be almost black). If I might add my two cents on orky vehicles, don't just slap parts on, but take time to plan them out. I have found that my orky vehicles take more time to plan their conversions than other projects, since if you are too random, it can look sloppy instead of ramshackle.

vash's blitz brigade are some of the best examples of what I am talking about, since he obviously takes his time to consider where each part should go, they lppk better than most orky vehicles, without looking like they came out of a factory.
 
#34 ·
sorry for quietly lurking i have been painting...

If I havent yet thanked you for replies then... thank you thank you :D all feedback is recieved in good grace.. mostly ;)

I am sorry for being a llittle quiet recently, I am still lurking about, however i am also in the process of packing up my life and lifting it to another county. It is so inconsiderate hehe.. Sadly this means I have also packed away most of my orky transports. So I have had to make do with instead painting the odd escape artist that refuses to be packed away.

I still need to learn how to base them as I want them, and so try to close your eyes on that.

Once again the camera is bad.. still working on that but as before almost everything is packed away.

I have been working on a Kommando squad, and found this a good excuse to treat myself to Snikrot.

It was a toss up whether or not to do Snikrot a dark and muddy green, in order to blend in with the undergrowth he creeps about in, but I decided the model cried out for muscle and sinew definition, and I seem to struggle to do this with a darker skin tone, so any hints would be greatly accepted. Ended up going for a paler complexion, as i found the darkness came from the contrast made by the shadows cast by his gear. I realy like the cast of this model maybe one of my favorites. Still struggling to do googles or lense glass justice. Looks around with fluttering eyes for help.

Planning to do the rest of the squad a darker muddy green.
I have been trying to try out a brusing of the skin around implanted metal, or grafted weapons. I want to try to perfect a angry rawness. With a open sore blending into a raw flesh fading into a blue tinged brusing. I am thinking possibly next time to try a mix of bronzed flesh and bleached bone, to get a colour more akin to dying flesh, instead of a bruise. I found trying to mix the right blend of a red hued purple a battle.







Now once I can hunt my way into the correct box I may be able to complete my squad of Kommados ;)
 
#35 ·
Wow Eeveria, once again your painting amazes me. The Komandos are some of my favourite ork minis and if i was going to paint an ork, i'd pick up one of them.

I love the way you painted the lenses, i always struggle with lenses and jewels so if you can provide any tips on how you did them i'd be most grateful.

As for bases, my tried and tested tecnique is to glue sand/small stones on the base prior to base coating the minis, painting them up and then adding patches of static grass (more recently i've started adding snow too, but that might not be up your street). Failing that, there are some good tutorials on teh GW website.

Keep up the good work

Rev
 
#36 ·
Thank you Rev!

You do realise I am trying my hardest to even approach your standard? You kind of set the bar for me.

I have to admit I think I have found my favourite models in the Kommandos and purchased Snikrot to boost their stats just so I had an excuse to lavish time on them.. but don't tell the gretchins that! ssush.

Thank you for the compliment on the goggles, but maybe the blurred camera makes them appear better than they are, it is one of the areas i am really struggling on. It is frustrating me greatly. I can't seem to get the realism with them, or the right highlighting. You would also curse me if you could see my attempt at a marine helmet and its flat eye glass, that is dangling on the backpack of this Kommmando. I was hoping for advice on glass and goggles.

Thank you about the base tips.. how do you avoid getting paint on the dirt? I am terrible when painting boots. Do you use a pva glue to secure it? I do have some bits and bobs to use but i am almost nervous of not doing the job justice, and ruining the look of the model.

The snow sounds a great idea! I bet your marines are looking fab on it... not sure my boyz would like it though, too cold on the toes.

Thank you as always
 
#37 ·
how do you avoid getting paint on the dirt? I am terrible when painting boots. Do you use a pva glue to secure it?

The snow sounds a great idea! I bet your marines are looking fab on it... not sure my boyz would like it though, too cold on the toes.
Without meaning to step on Rev's toes, most people either base first and paint the basing material as well as the model. Or alternatively, as with the snow, paint the model, then base it and try to avoid getting basing material on the model.

Doing it by basing and then trying to avoid painting it would be hard work.

PVA glue is good for basing, or wood glue, or indeed most hobby style glue. Cheap is good here too as you will use plenty across the bases of an army so don't waste superglue :p

Oh and welcome back from your lurking! :wink:
 
#38 ·
Good evening Squeek.. :D and thank you for the welcome back.. its nice to be typing again hehe, but I do lurk so much better.

I was being so dense about the basing wasn't i?
thank you so much for the tips. I am currently sat here, the lapbook thing balance on one knee and my paints and brushes on another. I plan to try to get a few grots done tonight.. unfortunately the flock and gravelly pieces I did buy a few weeks back are somewhere hidden in the depths of a half packed box.
I will definitely be a little braver about basing once I have settled down in the new place, and hopefully show a step by step update of the bases so everyone can advise me as I go in case I do something rather simple and dim!

Thank you for the comments and time again :D
 
#40 ·
I will :D thanks for the tip.
Sadly my cam and the light bleeds a little of the detail out, I am a little bit obsessed with my orkz skin a and muscle tone, i tend to layer many shades of mixed and blended greens, to try to get a realism.
However you are right, i think at the moment the layers are all falling a little too much in the same spectrum.
I am currently painting a grot handler so i wil take your advice with him and try a little something different and more beefcakey :D rawrrr grrrr
 
#41 ·
your orks are amazing and are a great deal of inspiraiton.. and your painting is way better than mine.. ahh jealousy.. my biggest vice :)
 
#43 · (Edited)
Thank you both for the comments, it is always nice to wake up to some Orky love.

Azwraith, you are too kind but thank you. You have no idea just how much inspiration i get from other fellow ork painters. I have been known to tip toe over to your project log too.
You seem to have perfected a darker muddy green than myself. I can never seem to get the right type of muscle definition when my boyz are of a darker tone.
Your yellow is just right, and looks as if it is supposed to be there. Applied by big lumbering orky hands rather than to bright. Its nice to see all the different visions of the boyz. I have tired a moon paint job, i convinced myself he could of creep into the waaaagghh of goffs by being left on a world. He turned out very orange :(

Many thanks to you Chaosftw, if it makes it any better, I love looking at Chaos armies. I am glad they seem thuggish, I was a starting to feel a little insecure about them not looking tough enough.
WWaaaghhhhh ;)
And thank you for the rep too! It is very appreciated.
 
#44 ·
Many thanks to you Chaosftw, if it makes it any better, I love looking at Chaos armies. I am glad they seem thuggish, I was a starting to feel a little insecure about them not looking tough enough.
WWaaaghhhhh ;)
And thank you for the rep too! It is very appreciated.
Hey no problem! They really do look great! whats next on the agenda for this army?

and your welcome! Rep is something I love passing out when I see something I like!

Cheers,
Chaosftw
 
#46 · (Edited)

Forgive the rather messy desk.. there is order to my chaos... excuse the pink box of shiny things in the background.. not sure how girly stuff managed to get close to my boyz..

Just a little shot of the painted ranks so far. Not very high quality I am afraid, plus the camera can't fit them all in, there is a little line from one end of the desk to the other side at the front but bashy stompy killy shooty greenskins always look best in a tide.
I wil not include the mass of assembled and pleading to be painted models, suffice to say they number over double of the painted ranks. Gulp.

just noticed a lost and forlorn space marine laying down in unpainted dispair in the back ground muahuhaua
 
#47 ·
little tip when doing rust (dont know if you like my style or not) but i get the black foam from the blister packs.. cut it up a little

then basically put some paint on it (Brown/dark red/red/orange) and dab it on some paper to get the excess off then go nuts on the rusted area.. do it in layers from darkest to lightest then was it all with like badab black.. and yeah looks good :)

your orks are really cool.. can wait to see how you do the koptas
 
#48 ·
rust ... rust... no ork army is complete without rust..
i currently use boltgun metal as a base, tin blitz watered down as a wash, allow it to dry . db methril silver on areas that i want to appear scratched up. wash with devlan mud. then free hand around all the edges with silver again and a steady hand to make it appear higlighted but also define the scratches.. I am going to try more pitting work. i was thinking of using black on a small area, then orange, then a silver. to make a corrosion affect... but not to sure. at the moment i allow the tin bitz wash to pool where i want the most rust and add and layer that area again once each is dry. Sometimes adding a very very watered down drop of black onto rivet detail.

Sounds time consuming but I am quite happy with how the scraps of metal armour turn out on the most part.

HOWEVER! I think for the vehicles I will have to try your technique Azwraith. Thank you so much for the tips I will be using them :D
 
#49 ·
Top work there man :) I'm a big ork fiend and I too am currently working through an army! I have to say, I wish I was that good when I started painting, you've got some superb skills there man :)

Talking about rust, I'm currently doing a shedload of rust on my mega dredd (one foot and the klaw out the way, 3 nights gone...). I use vajello flat brown and then slowly add more and more blazing orange, seems to give a nice rust effect as the vajello is incredibly matt paint.

Head to the blog in my sig to see the klaw arm so far, still working on the rest of the model and more pics to come over the coming week/weekend, hoping to have him finished by this time next weekend :)

Have some rep too, its well deserved mate :)
 
#50 ·
Heya, thank you so much for your comments! I find it a real pleasure to paint them, I find the ork models on the whole to be some of my favourites. so its nice to hear some good comments back. I know i still have a long way to go to improve my skills, and its a steep learning curve, but comments like yours really keep me wanting to do more. Many thanks again for the tips and reps.

I have popped over to your blog, I have to say that the klaw is looking really good. I love the colours on the metal too. I am always envious of painters like Azwraith and yourself, that are able to bring a little life to colours. My boyz tend to have quite a muddy dark and dirty armour, and i try to give them character/life through the skin tones, but in the future, once i have formed up my goffs fully, i would love to try my hand at some more vibrant colours. Maybe an excuse to add some speed freakz muhaha.. I will try to combine my current way of doing rust with both yours and Azwraith's way, on my vehicles.. I am actually looking forward to dedicating some time on them. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

And picking brains for tips lol... I think

I will be following your MD, its looking really impressive.
 
#51 ·
i am happy to give you any advice i can.. and i hope to get the same of you.

i will be re-starting my ork army in the Heresy Online Army Painting Compo.

but also showing my progress in my log.
 
#52 ·
Of course.. any thing you think i can help with i will not hesitate to provide some ideas.. sadly i dont have too many lol

Good luck with the army compo, and i will look forward to following your orkz.
Lets bring the Waaagghh to the forum! There's far to many marines :grin:
 
#53 · (Edited)
hahah the quote in your signature is classic.. you should join the army comp also will help keep you going and its a bit of fun :)

also out of curiosity where did you relocate to?
 
#55 ·
You have made some decent progress in the last month. That snikrot is a nasty looking pice of work. How did the move go. I recently went through the international relocation process and it was a nightmare. Doesn't do much for the sanity. Rep for snikrot. Makes me want to ds Marbo next to him and lob a demo charge. Orks worry me.
 
#56 ·
hi there. Nice project progress. nicest that it concerns the green tide. Ok, making the goffs isn't good for your boyz, but as a member of the cult of speed, I can say, we can let you live for now! :p

As about your painting,(of course I need better pics to be sure of what I see) I can say that you seem to paint nice, though I could suggest some things. Most of all, that the tactic in painting ork skin, drybrushing green over the black undercoat, to make the skin, ok it is a common tactic, but it still is unnatural. Better results if you basecoat dark green, and then drybrush lighter one. (much better if you do this with layers of many green scales to a light green thin highlight, but that is too much for some people when they paint a tabletop army). Keep on the good job!

Paint your world!
 
#57 ·
Thank you for all the recent feedback. I am sorry I have not replied straight away, I am currently having a break from boxes:shok:.

The move is from county to county .. or across the North South divide! From Yorkshire to Dorset, I dread the 8 hour drive.

I am glad you can notice some progression through the month. Especially on Snikrot. I have to say the model cast itself is very inspiring. He is a little different from many of the Orkz.
I have to admit when tucking my boyz up for the journey, I too can see a very marked difference to the standard of painting.

I can only hope the learning curve continues from now too.

I am looking forward to getting back to paint soon... if I survive the mountainous boxes!

I hope I can prove worthy of the rep you have already given me,

In response, the tips and advice and as always greatly appreciated.









Sorry about the camera quality, maybe it doesnt show enough, but I do actually paint as you state with the scales of colour. I prefer a naturalness to the skin tones and also find a black foundation provides to stark a contrast, So although I spray undercoat in black, before I start work on the skin I basecoat it green with a foundation paint. Like you say, thinking about the numbers needing to be painted, can be daunting by layering up the free hand layers and tones with highlights but i do actually enjoy it. I am very odd in the respect that I rarely layer dry brush work. I personally have found a style I enjoy and hope turns out ok.

As i have no one to thrash me yet ;) at the table top side of the game (however I fear that may soon change, once I have settled into the new place.) It means I do it for the enjoyment of completing an army. Which means that I don't mind too much having to put the time into each one.

I do think Orkz deserve time, even the tide of boyz.

I like my Goffs hehe In fairness it is my very first time at painting miniatures. So going for Goffs, although had a few reasons, one major one was the fact that I was uncertain that I could do vibrant colours justice. As I stated before, I hope in the future to try my hand at some Speed Freakz ;).. but all being said, I have fallen in love with the checks and simplistic Goff colours. For me, I like the muddy. scratched, worn feel to their armour.

Thank yo all so much once again :D I am sorry for the rushed reply.
 
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