[Xurce]

If i have a Master with a Power claw and a storm bolter do both of my close combat attacks act as a power claw? or does 1 act like a basic close combat attack?

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

despite appearances, the storm bolter is an assault weapon, not a pistol, and therefore does not give an extra attack in combat

 

[The Son of Horus]

ALL your attacks count as being made with the power fist, not just one. So your Master will have three attacks at I5(0), and S8, which ignore armor saves. In a pinch, you can opt NOT to use the power fist, and fight with three regular I5 S4 attacks, but usually there's no reason to do that. Point is, you can opt to do it if you really want to. As OXC pointed out, you won't be double-armed, so you'll not be able to claim the bonus attack for that, but that's okay. Sometimes it's better to have the ranged weapon. Kind of depends on the rest of your army.

 

[Anphicar]

This is a rule I have always loved--Even though you have two weapons to use to have more attacks, you can use those attacks all for the better weapon.

 

[Xurce]

Ok then, say i have a power fist and a lightning claw. Do i get benifits from both weapons on both of my attacks?

 

[Words_of_Truth]

You choose what you wish to use for all attacks.

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

well considering the fact that having a powerfist imediatly lowers your Initative to 1 for combat, you have to take them on the powerfist dont you??

 

[Jacobite]

I wouldn't say so as the initative reduction represents the physical weight of the powerfist and the need to for time to surpass to gain momentuim in the swing. So for example I would say that you could choose to split your attacks between the two weapons. For example:

Say you have 3 attacks are and armed with a Power Weapon and a Power Fist. You could allocate 2 attacks to be attacking at your normal Initative with the Power Sword and then leave one to strike at Initative 1 with the Power Fist.

I could be wrong however, bearing in mind that I don't play that often. Can anybody in the dead certain know clarify?

 

[Xurce]

I wouldn't say so as the initative reduction represents the physical weight of the powerfist and the need to for time to surpass to gain momentuim in the swing. So for example I would say that you could choose to split your attacks between the two weapons. For example:

Say you have 3 attacks are and armed with a Power Weapon and a Power Fist. You could allocate 2 attacks to be attacking at your normal Initative with the Power Sword and then leave one to strike at Initative 1 with the Power Fist.

I could be wrong however, bearing in mind that I don't play that often. Can anybody in the dead certain know clarify?

Well what if your basic profile had 1 attack. You charge into close combat with a power weapon and a lightning claw. You now have 3 attacks. How is this distributed?

Or does the original theory work when you have 3 attacks and they all gain benifits/ disadvantages from all weapons?

 

[The Wraithlord]

IIRC, you must use ALL attacks with either weapon. So either all fist or all claw, not a mixture of both. I believe that the only model capable of bypassing this rule is Logan Grimnar.

 

[Jacobite]

IIRC, you must use ALL attacks with either weapon. So either all fist or all claw, not a mixture of both. I believe that the only model capable of bypassing this rule is Logan Grimnar.

I defer to somebody who plays on a reguler basis. My brain works in 'real' logic - not game/rules logic. I would take Wraiths word for it - not mine.

 

[Xurce]

I defer to somebody who plays on a reguler basis. My brain works in 'real' logic - not game/rules logic. I would take Wraiths word for it - not mine.

I appretiate the effort regardless. TY

things are alot clearer now, ty wraith

 

[maximus2467]

Well what if your basic profile had 1 attack. You charge into close combat with a power weapon and a lightning claw. You now have 3 attacks. How is this distributed?

Or does the original theory work when you have 3 attacks and they all gain benifits/ disadvantages from all weapons?

sorry to be anal but you'd only have two attacks as you need two lightening claws to get the plus one attack, you don't get it with one claw and an additional close combat weapon

you wouldn't gain all benefits from all weapons for all attacks but you should just use the claw as its a power weapon anyway but you re roll failed to wound rolls

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

well you would have 3 on a charge, but only 2 base

 

[Xabre]

sorry to be anal but you'd only have two attacks as you need two lightening claws to get the plus one attack, you don't get it with one claw and an additional close combat weapon

you wouldn't gain all benefits from all weapons for all attacks but you should just use the claw as its a power weapon anyway but you re roll failed to wound rolls

Having 2 CCWs gives you an extra attack. Just like having a pistol gives you an extra attack. I forget lightning claws right now off the top of my head, but 2 of them give you a bonus besides an extra attack, no?

 

[Bloodhound]

Yeah, I was wondering how a chaplain with powerfist and crozius acranum attacks.

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

he doesnt, hes too busy trying to write with a damn powerfist on that he doesn't have time to fight.

but seriously, all his attacks would be on the powerfist, because doesnt having a powerfist imediatly lower your initiative to 1??

 

[Viscount Vash]

You choose which one to use at the beginning of the combat .

Only a pair of lightning claws gives an extra attack. One is not enough and never counts as a second close combat weapon.

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

ohh ok. that helps. but isnt it a CC weapon, i mean because it doesn't have a ranged attack and its attached to his hand, how is it not a CC weapon, and therefore and additional one to the PF

 

[Viscount Vash]

In its own rules mate. You have to have a pair to get the extra attack.