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tell your opinion on the most noobiest, cheesiest unit in 40k. i think the monolith and in fact the entire necron army is the most cheesiest
 

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I personally dislike the 15man Space Wolf Blood Claw squad with 3 damn pfists myself.
 

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Mmm, nothing like those vaccums for making decisions.

Seriously, get with the metagame. If Necrons are as broken as every toss and his dog seems to think, why aren't they obliterating at the tournament scene? Why? Because the Codex consists of 5.8 playable units. You have one real choice for each slot. That choice does one, or if you're lucky, a whopping two things. You have to spend a minimum of five hundred points just to be able to play the game. You have the Phase Out rule, and you tell me any other army that LOSES THE GAME as a result of what most people would see as the average finishing point of an objectiveless game. You have to play the balancing act between numbers and strength in a way no other army list has to. finally, and most severe of all, your enemy will know exactly what you are playing as soon as they hear the word Necrons. Against Marines of both types, all you know is AP3. Against Guard, you know they'll have a number of tanks and lots of things which may do anything. Againts Necrons, a decent player can probably predict their army list to within 15% of its points value.

You tell me the other army that has to deal with this, and I'll give them the powerful units.
 

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a redshirt told me that dark eldar were coming out tomorrow, and after that we're getting new necron models, and theyre getting 4 core choices, and theyre switching to all metal now. thats gotta be true right?

wait. wrong forum.

but seriously, my hjope against hope? that the new TSons are the cheesiest unit in the game.
 

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tactical marines from codex sm. i mean no combat squad rule, can be 5-10 man strong and take both hvy and special no matter how big the squad is. I mean seriously they must be broken right?
 

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I'd have to say any of the four cult armies from the current Codex CSM, especially Deathguard and although its not cult IW's.

You can definatly predict whats in a IW's army no matter what.

As for the cults I just really don't want to think about having to face a army that is cmpletely fearless and will not run away. Scary scary stuff.
 

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Ordo Xeno Commander said:
i would say the Necron Lord in particular. he just plain pisses me off, keeps getting back up no matter what i throw at him!
He's nothing that massed Wraithcannon cannot fix ;)
 

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i find that a fully tooled up necron lord is the worst thing ever. get back up on 4 plus with higher wounds with higher rolls. toughness 5, weapon which ignores all saves. cheese....on.....a.....stick! :evil:
 

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your average chaos lord with infiltrate and daemonic speed

and i think death guard are the least cheesiest :D

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i find that a fully tooled up necron lord is the worst thing ever. get back up on 4 plus with higher wounds with higher rolls. toughness 5, weapon which ignores all saves. cheese....on.....a.....stick! :evil:
And you're paying two hundred points for that. There are many HQs that can do more for less.
 

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thats a tough one, theres quite a few things

Terminators with 2 ass cannons (especially when the enemy has as many units of them as possible)
a full unit of Tornados (same as above)

Obliterators
Defiler
(neither cheesy on there own, but when someone take 9 Obiterators and 4 defilers, then its cheesy)

Tooled up Eldar Vehicles
I once would of said Harlequins, but there puffs

anything from the Necron Codex, especially the Monolith

theres just too much I can't be bothered, I got more important things to do
 

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I really hate facing Kroot Merc armies.
Seriously? Never played against a Kroot army (never even played against a Tau army, actually :? ), but I've heard that Kroot Merc armies are featherweights. The Kroot have a great look, and I've toyed with the idea of going all-Kroot someday, but I'd rather not pick anything noticeably overpowered.

And about Necrons...the Phase Out thing is a serious thorn in the side of any Necron player. Honestly, almost every loss I've had with Necrons ended with the remnants of my army giving up and bailing out on me. On a side note, I've heard that the look on a Necron player's face when his army ditches him is hilarious.
 

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Yeah...i have played them twice.

I won both times, but man, i didn't like the thrashing i got. I got thrashed horribly.

I dont remember the rules but they had so many damn krootox with krootox guns, and the wargear for the characters was crazy.
 

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I face necrons alot and while i admit its disheartening to see them all get back up after you deal a stupid amount of wounds i have never seen them as cheesy or noob worthy. They are a power gamer army, no doubt about that since there is very little conversion worth there and if you go with the standard silver colour scheme you can churn out enitre units in one day (my mate does it all the time :( )

If you want a noob army face an iron warriors obliterator army.
 
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