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Okay, we know the ultramarines were the biggest legion and the space wolves the hairiest, but, I'm wondering, who do you guys think was the most dangerous legion in a fight. Numbers aren't of consequence, I'm talking marine-for-marine which legion had the most dangerous lot.
My top three would be:
Thousand Sons - Psychic powers make them extremely dangerous, even to other marines.
Space Wolves - Enhanced senses, berzerker style of combat and unnaturally high resistance to warp effects grant them advantages over most other legions.
World Eaters - Mindless, fearless, unpredictable lunatics who fight with total abandon, willing to do things that even other astartes would think twice about.
Anyway, this is just my opnion. What do the rest of you think?
 

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Thousand Sons are an obvious one, if I exclude them though...

World Eaters- it's not a controlled aggression it's homicidal fury with no restraint. Space Wolves are a weapon directed at an enemy and let loose, the WE are a force of nature on a scale all of their own.
The only Legion to come close to their level of rage and brutality was the Blood Angels immediately post-sanguinius death.


To save time for Lord of the Night:

Night Lords- why? [some fan boy reason]
 

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For me, the Night Lords have always been more bark than bite.
I'd rather face some guy with bat wings on his helmet going boo than a blood covered berserker wielding a chainaxe. But thats just me.
 

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To save time for Lord of the Night:

Night Lords- why? [some fan boy reason]
Haha, he won't be happy with that! :biggrin:

The Thousand Sons are one of the obvious ones, but whilst they wield unimaginable powers they do wield them at a price and are extremley volatile (Eg. Burning of Prospero).

Other than that it is very hard to come up with any sort of accurate list, they were all bad-ass. The World Eaters, Space Wolves and Alpha Legion are up there though, and personally, for the record I would have the Night Lords near the top, especially with Curze around.
 

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I would say the World Eaters, Thousand Sons, and the Space Wolves. Wow, almost every response to this thread says that.
 

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I presume that's why the OP asked about pre-heresy legions...burn :thank_you:
ouch. yep brain fart. Just woke up. In this case, I would say Luna Wolves. The Terran astartes seemed a little more under control, but the ones who were not born on Terra were a bit crazy before the heresy of course.

Normally I would say World Eaters, but there isn't really any good description on what they were before the Heresy and without the aggression implants.
 

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Well we havent really had enough info about all the Legions pre-heresy to definitively say.

However you've of course got:
Thousand Sons - All ready covered by evryone
World Eaters - Baron summed it up just fine.
Space Wolfs - Covered
Alpha Legion - In general the Alpha Legions defeats were some of the best from what i've read, took alot more time than the others but when they eventually did strike you, evrything would go wrong and you would be crushed.
Luna Wolves - They didnt get the highest victory count by being friendly, when you've got a mind like Horus behind the attack its gonna be dangerous
Dark Angels - Same as above.
Word Bearers - Religous fanatics who arent going to stop until every ounce of resistance is crushed.
Night Lords - It's gonna be a pretty terrifying affair, ranking up their with the World Eaters
 

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As much as it pains me to say this, I have to give the spook award to the night lords, I want to be able to fight them, not be shot from a fucking shadow. Dangerous though... Well that's a different story. It is a close battle between the wolves of fenris and the thousand sons. It is difficult to say, the sons had more raw power I suppose but the wolves were able to beat them. When it comes right down to it, I say the wolves.
 

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even though i play Emperor's Children i would have to say Iron Warriors were the most dangerous of the LOT. they were siege specialists there wasn a barrier they couldnt break and they make the most durable citidels. Very smart group,tactics are flawless, and have been said to be as deadly in combat as world eaters. They were well on their way to heresy just needed a push when Horus came to power.
 

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even though i play Emperor's Children i would have to say Iron Warriors were the most dangerous of the LOT. they were siege specialists there wasn a barrier they couldnt break and they make the most durable citidels. Very smart group,tactics are flawless, and have been said to be as deadly in combat as world eaters. They were well on their way to heresy just needed a push when Horus came to power.
Iron Warriors are a well organized legion. Its too bad there really hasn't been fluff written about them. Even the book that made them look the best Storm of Iron had a shit guardsman named Hawke(don't get me wrong, I love the character, but what the fuck) basically destroy the Iron Warrior encampment with a huge missle. Even Honsou's adventure wasn't really about Iron Warriors but about his pirate fleet.
 

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Iron Warriors are a well organized legion. Its too bad there really hasn't been fluff written about them. Even the book that made them look the best Storm of Iron had a shit guardsman named Hawke(don't get me wrong, I love the character, but what the fuck) basically destroy the Iron Warrior encampment with a huge missle.
How does that make them look bad at all? Hawke was simply ungodly lucky and even then he just pressed a button, nothing else. For the seige itself the Iron Warriors were shown to be highly effective.
 

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Endurance: Death guard
Pure Power: Thousand Suns
Sealth: Alpha Legion
Fear: Night Lords
Melee: Wolves
-Cause people will ask, yes the world eaters are great with melee but SW's as tips the scale
Siege: I don't realy know them but From Storm of Iron I would go with Iron warriors
 

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just think of the missle as a deathstrike missle, and they got it off before it was destroyed. strength 10 ap1 2D6 distance that will kill anything. and i disagree Honsou's story was about gaining respect among his fellow sons of puterbo he had that damn Imperial fist gene seed.
 

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How does that make them look bad at all? Hawke was simply ungodly lucky and even then he just pressed a button, nothing else. For the seige itself the Iron Warriors were shown to be highly effective.
Partially it was lucky, however, it was Honsou's incompetence and failure to secure and kill everyone in that outpost that really cause the survivor "Hawke" in blowing the crap out of the Iron Warriors. For me, no book has really shown the extent of the wrath of the Iron Warrior's.
 

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Partially it was lucky, however, it was Honsou's incompetence and failure to secure and kill everyone in that outpost that really cause the survivor "Hawke" in blowing the crap out of the Iron Warriors. For me, no book has really shown the extent of the wrath of the Iron Warrior's.
ditto, iron warriors kick ass
 
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