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Good answer.

Althuogh, as you said you were going to post a before picture yesterday, you should probably be using your camera first.
Nono, I learned the hard way that photographing my tool wasn't to be taken lightly...Stupid stupid stupid...
 

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Nono, I learned the hard way that photographing my tool wasn't to be taken lightly...Stupid stupid stupid...
I was actually directing that at humakt not you; as a Mod he has the special tool.

Anyhew, I should probably stop spamming my own thread.:laugh:
 

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I inadvertantly made myself busy and have neither got my tool out or used it. I shall attempt to take before pictures before I get my tool out.
 

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Remember the May contest closes midnight GMT on 31 May so there is still time to complete your entry for this month.

I will be confirming next week whether any rules changes are occurring for next month, so if you have any comments or suggestions can you post them here before Monday.

Reading through the rules, it seems the emphasis is on not-painting the model.
The emphasis is on displaying the conversion work done; whilst a picture of an unpainted model definitely gives a "pure" view of the conversion, painting that does not hide the work done does not disadvantage either the entrant or voters.
 

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If I convert a model I have previously painted is it eligible to enter?

If you converted the model without stripping the paint then you do not need to strip the model just to enter the contest. However you do accept the risk that the conversion might seem less impressive if the model is painted.
 

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This Deathmatch is about celebrating our attempts to convert models; so if the work has been done then the mechanism of the contest should not get in the way except where necessary:

I finished my conversion but was unable to post a photograph before the closing date. Is there anything that I can do?

Voting will not always start immediately after the closing date. Whilst the organiser makes no warranty, after photographs posted in the entry thread before the voting thread opens may still be accepted.

If you know in advance you will not be able to post an after photograph of the conversion in time then contact the competition organiser as soon as you know explaining your situation; at the organiser's discretion the closing date can be extended. For the sake of fairness this extension will apply to all entrants.

If you do not post an after picture then the organiser may choose to count a progress picture displaying significant progress as an after photograph.
 

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I started one conversion that turned into something entirely different (well, spawned soething different, while the original idea was changed substantially and completed in a different way). My "before" picture is now only partially valid, whether I post up the original idea (which I accomplished in a different way and not entirely to my satisfaction) or, like I would prefer, the off-shoot project. I understand that it's expected that changes will occur as conversion exposes certain realities about the kits being bashed, but thought I would float this question:

Can I post the "before" of the original project and the "after" of the off-shoot, with only partial picture documentation of the change-over, or am I constrained to an "after" of the initial project, though some aspects of it changed in the process?

For clarification, the initial project was a scratch-built Thunderfire Cannon with Techmarine. While I was unhappy with the initial cannon for the purposes of a TFC, I thought it would make the barrels of an excellent quad gun, so I entirely scratch built an Aegis Defense Line with a quad gun. May I post the ADL as my conversion project for this month?
 

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Coda question: if I post one of those projects this month, may I also post the other next month? I realize this would be a violation of the "a project that you've done this month" guideline and would be totally fine with a "no" for an answer.
 

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Can I post the "before" of the original project and the "after" of the off-shoot, with only partial picture documentation of the change-over, or am I constrained to an "after" of the initial project, though some aspects of it changed in the process?
The "before" picture is there to help people see what changes have been made, so you are fine to use the photograph of the original starting point if the plan changed mid-project.

Coda question: if I post one of those projects this month, may I also post the other next month? I realize this would be a violation of the "a project that you've done this month" guideline and would be totally fine with a "no" for an answer.
While planning can can be done in advance, the actual construction must be done between the start date of the entry period and the end date, so you could not enter any work done this month in next month's deathmatch.

However, if you do more work on an existing project it is acceptable to use a photograph of the project as-is as a "before" photograph and enter just the additions made.
 

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Two more additions to the FAQ:

Do all the parts have to be GW? If not is there a minimum percentage that have to be GW parts?

There is no requirement for the conversion to be for a GW game or to use any GW parts.

I converted several areas around the model; therefore my conversion looks better in three-dimensions. Can I submit several photographs of the finished product from different angles?

If you do not have the time or ability to make a photo montage you can post as many photographs in the entry thread as you wish.

To avoid voters potentially being overwhelmed by photographs of entries at the top of the list up to two photographs will be displayed in the voting thread. If you have a preference as to which photographs are displayed it should be indicated in the entry thread.
 

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Another question: may I change entries? I'm working on several projects at once (as you might have seen on my Plog) and one is turning out rather more impressively than the entry I posted up initially in the December entry thread. I really think that the Daemon Prince I'm working on is a much stronger entry than my Fateweaver model.

May I drop my initial entry, then post a picture of a different project as it was at the beginning of the month?
 

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Another question: may I change entries? I'm working on several projects at once (as you might have seen on my Plog) and one is turning out rather more impressively than the entry I posted up initially in the December entry thread. I really think that the Daemon Prince I'm working on is a much stronger entry than my Fateweaver model.

May I drop my initial entry, then post a picture of a different project as it was at the beginning of the month?
Yes.
 

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An addition to the FAQ:

I just discovered the Deathmatch and would like to enter the conversion I started a few days ago. Can I use photographs of identical parts to those I used as my before picture?

Yes. The primary purpose of the before picture is to let voters assess how much inspiration and graft has gone into the conversion. It also lets people who want to try a similar conversion see which parts you used. By entering the competition you assert that you started the conversion in the relevant month anyway.
 
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