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I'll be taking this army to tournaments, so any suggestions with proper explanation would be appreciated.


HQ:
Librarian
Powers:
Avenger
Null Zone

Elites:
Sternguard#5
2x Plasmaguns
3x Combi-Plasma
Rhino

Troops:
Tacticals#10
Combi-Melta
Melta
Missile Launcher
Rhino

Tacticals#10
Combi-Melta
Melta
Missile Launcher
Rhino

Scouts#5
Combi-Melta
Missile Launcher

Scouts#5
Combi-Melta
Missile Launcher


Fast Attack:
Typhoon#3
Tyhpoon#2
Typhoon#3

Heavy Support:
Vindicator

Predator
Auto-cannon
Las Sponsons

Predator
Auto-cannon
Las Sponsons

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First of all the typhoons are armed with Typhoon missile launchers right?
-Yes

Only suggestion would be to make some of those typhoons MM/HF, I think you will have trouble cracking you opponents AV 13-14 in the backfield. Lascannons are pretty good but not as reliable as melta.
-The goal is to suppress armor value 14, I usually crack AV 13 just fine with the amount of strength 8 I field. I usually just shoot them in the side armor though.

I think the list is really good and definitely a tournament contender, however you have a couple of units that really stand out target priority wise. The stern guard rhino isn't gonna last making them a really expensive dud as i doubt they will ever get to hit their intended target. You could say this would be good thing cause then they are taking the heat off your tac marines but I think they're a little too expensive for that.
-True, they are really just there to answer any terminators getting frisky with me.

Also I think because your transport spam consists of 3 rhinos, only 1 of which needs to be dealt with quickly, your land speeders should quickly become the target of the fire normally reserved for transports right off the bat. While cover can help you we both Speeders aren't the most survivable and they provide a lot of your firepower.
-Hence why I do not use the MM/HF speeders. AV 10 just doesn't last. The rest of the army is built to support and drag attention away from the speeders.

I think you could make your opponents target priority harder by increasing your light vehicles, possibly getting razorbacks or spreading some of those points around into Dreadnoughts which would provide good anti tank and not be quite so fragile.
-Hmm, I'll try this out and see how it goes. My only problem with this strategy is how easy it is to pop the transports and then the speeders. I like the AV 13 because it's reliable constant cover and not many lists bring enough dakka to get past my covers saves. But, I totally understand what you're saying and will try a variant.


If you run into an army which has long range light anti tank and lots of it (a.k.a a good list) they will be able to deal with those speeders early. They can kill your anti transport fire early which really hurts you.
Very true, however the only long range anti-tank I fear is auto cannons and then it's down to my own target priority.

I was aware of most of these problems already Drizzt, but I hadn't thought of the light armor spam solution. Thank you for the rundown of the list:biggrin:.
 

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Ooh Riflemen dreads!:) Yes, I actually read YTTH sometimes. Stelek and and a veteran player/friend of mine are the two reasons I was able to build this list.

I actually have all the models needed to build this list so the transition would be easy. I dislike the riflemen (love the look though) since AV 13/14 basically ignore it. Everything in my own list is built to handle all armor values and put a dent in a horde.

How does the list you suggested deal with rock armies? Or raider armies? I mean it'll put the fear of God into alot of armies especially non-imperials, but I could see it struggling against more extreme lists.

I would probably put my speeders into reserve against an army like this (if I'm going second), but that would hurt me as well. I think such a matchup would come down to who goes first. I do like the idea of melta vets in rhinos though.

Oh and I handle most AV 13 by shooting their sides. And I'm impressed you're able to think at 2 a.m.
 
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