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I just want to know what the guy's think about mail order from the end of the month stopping selling of individual bitz?


Instead they will be selling bitz bags!? So if i want an ork jump pack for example as of Feb, instead of buying however many jump packs i need, i'll be forced to buy bitz bags that will contain a couple of rokkits and a whole pile of junk i dont want! Check out the back of this months white dwarf to see more!!


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Think it is a pile of crap myself. I don't need the bitz that I am not asking for, why should I pay for them as well.
 

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Yeah it sucks big time that you have to buy a bunch of other junk just to get the part you want. It is going to be harder to do conversions either that or people are going to start using bits places like battlewagon bits.
 

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i jsut dont think its economically viable anymore, its part of the cost cutting exercise GW are on at the moment, so i support it, if it keeps the hobby going.
 

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because of the way theyre packaged. they have to employ people to go through the racks (which are ENORMOUS) to find things bit by bit. making bitz packs will cut this down, and save time and money. and also space.
 

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>>Its a fuckin joke, to put it politely. As has been said, why would people want to buy shite they dont need. Utter fuckin disgrace. And I dont fall for this better for the company shite either. Schemin bastards, no more, no less.:angry:
 

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perhaps, but i imagine GW has computed this. i imagine bitz orders make up an insignificant amount of business, and that theyve gathered the most popular combos into packs.

im just speculating, but im sure GW have thought this through.
 

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So if i want an ork jump pack for example as of Feb, instead of buying however many jump packs i need, i'll be forced to buy bitz bags that will contain a couple of rokkits and a whole pile of junk i dont want!


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>> So you will need to buy even more bitz bags, therefor getting more un-needed shit, and making GW more cash in to the bargain. They must think people are fuckin stupid.
 

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>>Its a fuckin joke, to put it politely. As has been said, why would people want to buy shite they dont need. Utter fuckin disgrace. And I dont fall for this better for the company shite either. Schemin bastards, no more, no less.:angry:

i really dont see how you reach this conclusion. i mean yes, i can see how you might be upset, its annoying to me as well, but as for your closing statement, it makes no sense.

you hypothesise that this will lose them money, but you call them scheming like they want more of your money.

They know about BWB and stuff like that, so they've taken it into account. use them in future. GW obviously decided it was no longer cost-effective to support the service, so have removed it. If it means you spending less, then so be it. itll save GW more i suppose in the long run...

So you will need to buy even more bitz bags, therefor getting more un-needed shit, and making GW more cash in to the bargain. They must think people are fuckin stupid.
then dont buy them if you dont want them. decide if its worth it. they dont think youre stupid. chill.
 

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chill people any way you could use the other crap to base your models... i can a imagine a warboss shouting an angry waaaaaagh on top of a pile of rokkits :biggrin:
 

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but wont people just buy them from say...battlewagon bitz instead..so they can get the bitz they want?
Yes, and BWB also has plastic bitz where GW only sells sprue.

BWB prices according to supply and demand - hence why a Baneblade sponson is $50 and a Terminator Assault Cannon $10 by itself.

GW would be accused of structuring the rules to gouge customers if they did that themselves. If they didn't, they'd have warehouses full of nothing by unpopular bitz, or they'd need to pay to dispose of them.

It really makes a lot of sense for GW pass the individual bitz role onto a 3rd party.
 

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I agree with the asmodai's statements.

I find battle wagon bitz to be a great resource.

I don't know what will be going into these packs, but it could end up being a positive thing.

who knows, "extra baneblade sponsons" might be an available bitz pack same with "plastic hurricane bolter sponsons" or "extra armor"
 

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Yes, donig bitz bags for things like battlewagons is a great idea. Infact it's the old gubbibgs bags from a wgile back. But to stop doing individual bitz is stupid!. To created my stormtroopers i need the torso of the chao's dev sergent. Now that £2 a go just to cut his head off. But i'll be damned if im going to spend £6 to buy the whole model just so i can cut his bloody head off!!

I also need the sniper rifle from the Vostroyan snipers. £1.50 each is ok, bollocks to another £6 etc. I need the old chaos termi heads for my chaos guard (mask ones) these will probably be discontinued! Good bye to the old sentiment of, " if you have the code, we can get you the part.

Converting is one of the parts of the hobby i love the most, and i don't mind too much spending £20-£30 on my character models, i refuse to spend that on the grunds. If this is the case i might as well buy an army from Forge World!

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To me, while it may be a cost cutting exercise, its costing GW big in another way. PR. As you can see, some of our most talent and experianced members are gettting annoyed about this (quite rightly in my eyes). And Heresy won't be alone in this. The problem is is that moves like this reduces choice from the gamer as they are forced to buy bits they don't want. This obvisouly annoys people as they are having to pay money for stuff which they are just going to have lying around or waste. Yes their may be some bags that are full of good parts but there will also be bags with stuff that is mixed and some with only one good thing. Also there are going to be parts that people may want that arn't going to be in the bags. And what about older parts from the archive range? BWB doesn't sell them as far as I know. They arn't going to be in the bags so where do you get them from now?

Now yes parts you buy but don't want can be traded for bits you do but I can tell you now that even with this there are going to be bits that nobody wants which they ahve payed money for which before they wouldn't have had and wouldn't have payed for.

It also could create a monopoly for BWB, as soon as you start removing consumer choice of where to go to get their products the places that are still in business can do what they like with the prices.

Now considering the amount of GW Bashing that goes on (Rightly or wrongly, im not taking sides) PR is something that GW desperatly needs - especially from gamers in the older age bracket. These older gamers generally arn't happy with the way that WD has changed and the jury is still out on whether the rules streamlining is a good thing. Combine this with the price hikes (again not taking sides - but you can't deny that the price of the hobby has risen a fair bit in the past 5 years) and the atmosphere isn't all rosey for GW.


As for the idea that this is a cost saving exercise. I don't beleive that is true, I think that the way they operated the bits service before would have been working fine however they have come up with a way to make more of a profit. The idea that the cost of employing warhouse staff and packaging is too much is laughable. The chances are these workers arn't employed soley for individual parts orders, they will be packaging together normal kits as well.

My take on it is that this is designed to move more stock. GW is a business and its aim is to make money. Now unfortuntly this sometimes comes at the cost of annoying certain demographics. It may do make more money for them, it may not but the chances are the one thing we can count on is that PR will take another hit. It all depends on how many more hits PR can take before a policy reversal.
 

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I say it's a bunch of crap. It'll force hobbyist to buy off ebay and sites like that that still sell individual bits.
 

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if I am ever on trial, I don't want you people on my jury, you will have judged me before you ever saw any evidence.

does anyone know what will be in these bags?
does anyone know what the price point will be?
 

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if I am ever on trial, I don't want you people on my jury, you will have judged me before you ever saw any evidence.

does anyone know what will be in these bags?
does anyone know what the price point will be?
It doesnt matter. They are still FORCING us to buy whole packages of things which we might only want 1-2 pieces. Its like the special weapons and heavy weapons. Box sets only come with certain weapons. Want something outside the normal and you have to buy special packages. Now if you want to build a special army your going to have to buy whole bags to get the individual pieces you need. Might be great for the conversion boys, the terrain builders, the hundred army people but bad for the people who dont have the room for all this.

Having the bags available = good
Getting rid of individual parts order = horribly bad
 
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