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Lion's Blade vs Gladius?

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This will probably cause a lot of flak, as I've seen it in other DA-centric groups, but I'm very curious.

For the most part, the Lion's Blade and the Gladius are identical FOR MEQ units, especially for the 'OMGFreeTransportHAXORS!' lists that are showing up everywhere.

Now, that's not the case once you actually want to design a creative list, with Deathwing Forces, or Conclaves, etc etc. However, when you consider that most of the Auxillaries are Formations, which means Battle Brothers all the live long day....

The Lion's Blade can technically run cheaper, because you only need one scout squad as the cheapest Auxiliary.

The Gladius needs three Scout squads for their alternative, however you can drop the Assault Squads in favor of something as simple as a single attack bike.

(Edit // Did the math: There's about 70 points in favor of Lion's Blade to run the bare-bones Demi Company).

However, if all you're doing is running the razorspam lists... is Lion's Blade truly the best choice? The 100 points? I feel like the Gladius is far better, with tactical doctrines being more flexible than the Overwatch bonus, not to mention ALSO getting an additional chapter tactic to go with it.

I'm curious other people's opinions. The DA players will just immediately say 'it doesn't matter if it's worse, I play Dark Angels, damnit!' And since I play Thousand Sons, I totally understand using a mediocre rules set. But at the same time... there's almost NO difference in the two lists...
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Army-wide Hit and Run, re-roll Run, and Scout with potent Bike bonuses versus Overwatch at full BS with potent Bike bonuses.

Yeah, Gladius is way better for the Battle Company (White Scars, Ultramarines, Iron Hands, probably Imperial Fists given you need two units of Devastators at any rate, probably Salamanders with the Vulkan man; Dark Angels beat Raven Guard because Raven Guard are the new Dark Angels of the Marine world).

Outside of the Battle Company, they're pretty well balanced books (SM has far more flexible and often stronger Chapter Tactics, Grav Centurions, Khan Stormtalons and the Librarius while DA has Black Knights, strong Biker options probably on par with White Scars, and the Ravenwing Support Squadron where they all have Stealth and Shrouded and can Overwatch - no DA players around here), SM probably eking out a little bit ahead but not by an incredible degree.
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