[darkreever]

If the Vergs feel like Cuu is one of their own, what does that say about them? I mean wasn't he showing his psychotic nature before he was tried for murder/rape?

Actually, I believe he may have been noted as being a bit to himself but that was about it. There was no indication of him being crazed or psychotic.


And for the record, remember that Hark is able to be more objective than Gaunt. Its why he was so easily able to see why Cuu needed to be defended and not just left to die. In the end it boils down to what is needed in order to make sure that the newly restructured and reinforced regiment, that needs to stay that way because there is no other choice, does not destroy itself and do the enemy the favour of riding the Imperium of one more good regiment.

What Hark knew that Gaunt needed to do, its nothing different than what you would see in any military force of today, or anything involving a team for that matter.

 

[AK74Bob]

I thought he already knifed and threatened Larks before the murder trial in Guns of Tanith. Then later in Straight Silver, he has another bout with Larks. I want to know why this crap is not reported to Gaunt or seen by others...Regardless they should have gone on the safe side and segregated the squads. Real military units don't integrate strangers who they know nothing about into their squads. Really Larks should just pick up one of the chaos traitors guns and frag Cuu. But that would be too easy.

 

[World Eater XII]

Off subject but "Real military units don't integrate strangers who they know nothing about into their squads"

Not true, recently i had to train with guys from another company that id never met or heard of before, we all got on like a house on fire aftter about 2days!

 

[Angel of Blood]

Yeah thats not true at all, my section and fire team and by extension entire regiment constantly get new guys in, both fresh out of training or from another unit who we've never spoken to before. You gel pretty quickly all the same, sure they will be 'the new guy' for a while but still get along and work well together

 

[World Eater XII]

What reg are you AoB?

Im from the Rifles!

 

[Angel of Blood]

1 squadron, raf regt(insert joke here)

 

[AK74Bob]

OUR military is not like that at all. Do you guys get people from different countries in your squads? Do you guys have Germans or French soldiers in your squad that do not speak your language? Do these foreigners watch your backs like your battle brothers do? I think not. Now imagine having strangers from a different fething planet than you, all the sudden in your squad and they are supposed to watch your six. Jeez...How could you trust them like the brothers you've sweated and bled with since basic training? Our military puts new Americans ( or whatever country you hail from) in your unit. People with the same training and similar culture.

 

[World Eater XII]

Are you in the military Bob? Like in the infantry, not some RAF remf like AoB

 

[Angel of Blood]

Fuck you lol ^^. And yeah granted its a little different from guys in our own country, sure we don't get jonny foreginer like french and german, we do though get Fijians, Gurkhas etc. Yeah they aren't another planet, but they've grown up in a completely different culture and lifestyle, yet i still trust them with my life and they trust theirs in mine. I wouldn't see it being any different for the Tanith. The verghasts were loyal soldiers of the Imperium, they(with the exception of Cuu) were almost all universally good and honest people who had sweat tears and blood with the Ghosts at Vervunhive. And for all we know our fresh new squaddie straight out of basics who grew up down the road from me might be a complete fucking psychopath. I don't see the problem at all.


Also now finished Sabbyt Martyr, i now hate Cuu even more

 

[World Eater XII]

I suppose a good example of all nationalites working together as a fighting force is the French Foregin legion and they kick alot of ass!

I believe one of our members has done a few tours with them!

 

[AK74Bob]

The French Foreign Legion is a good example and yes they are badass. How many of their guys are actually non-French I wonder. To answer your question No I am not in the military. Though I may join the Army if I can't get a job with the Border Patrol or some other gov agency.

 

[Angel of Blood]

Quite alot of them, the majority are still european however for the most part

 

[Lord of the Night]

Also now finished Sabbyt Martyr, i now hate Cuu even more.

Going back on topic.. now you see the true evil that is Lijah Cuu. Bragg, Muhril and Corbec all dead by his hand.. and yet he is still my favourite character in Gaunt's Ghosts. Sure as Sure.

 

[darkreever]

Going back on topic.. now you see the true evil that is Lijah Cuu.

Sorry but no, thats not the true evil of Cuu, or rather the deep evil he represents.

In the end, Gaunt needed to defend this man or else he would shatter the resolve of his soldiers and not just the new ones. If he set an example, that he cared more for his Tanith ghosts than it would only work to distance both groups from each other, and it would break the bonds of trust he had built up with the regiment after all this time. It would be a betrayal the likes of which the Tanith ghosts had felt once before, and Guant would never be able to get beyond it.


However, the true evil lies in that though Gaunt needed to defend Cuu, Cuu would go on to take that and twist it. He would kill off some of the greatest members of the ghosts. The true evil in this is that because of the Verghast ghosts, Cuu lived and went on to kill Bragg, Muhril, and Corbec. Thats a fact that will have to haunt them forever, the are responsible for those deaths.

 

[AK74Bob]

I think I would rather have Bragg, Muril and Corbec back. Plus regimental conflict just adds to the story.

 

[World Eater XII]

Cuu being defended by Gaunt is a much better plot line than Inter reg conflict.

In fighting just seems like a cheap way of dragging out a story!

 

[AK74Bob]

Psssh its not a cheap way of dragging out a story. Like I said before I love GG, but I could have done without Cuu. Or Cuu could have just been the series asshole, that would have been funny. He didn't have to turn out to be a murdering traitor. I liked the line "sure as sure" just like everyone else, now we don't get to hear it anymore Plus cool characters dying ingloriously by Cuu's hands is just lame...especially when compared to say Vamberfeld's death in Honor Guard.

 

[AK74Bob]

All this talk of fething Cuu...I may have to reread all the novels.:laugh:

 

[World Eater XII]

See i like that some good characters got fucked up by Cuu!

And in the end wasnt he being controlled/under the influence of psykers at the end?

 

[AK74Bob]

Yeah by that Pater Sin creature.