[kelvingreen]

The Ork Codex mentions that Orks can loot, among other vehicles, a Leman Russ and a Leman Russ Battle Tank. What's the difference between the two? Is one of them without sponsons perhaps?

A secondary question: the Ork book says that a looted vehicle can have any of the "options" available in its original list. I read that to mean that stuff like a Russ' sponson mounts, but not upgrades like camo netting or extra armour, as the different usage of "option" and "upgrade" seems to be pretty consistent across the board. Is that correct?

 

[cccp]

1) No difference between the two that i know of

2) A looted vehicle can be given any weapon upgrades allowed in its parent list, but may only take vehicle upgraded from the ork codex.

 

[Cadian81st]

By weapon upgrades, can you include pintle weapons in that list?

 

[kelvingreen]

I wouldn't think so. Even though it's a weapon, a pintle-mount would be counted as a vehicle upgrade, rather than a weapon option.

I'd say that anything included in the vehicle's basic stat block in the Codex would be an "option", while anything on the separate upgrade list would be an "upgrade". So an Ork Leman Russ could mount, as "options", the sponson guns, but not a hunter-killer missile or a pintle-mounted storm bolter, because those come from the general upgrade list.

At least that's how I read it.

I still don't know why the Ork Codex distinguishes between a "Leman Russ" and a "Leman Russ Battle Tank" though.

Unless the Orks can actually loot the Space Wolf Primarch himself... :shock:

 

[Cadian81st]

Just picture Leman Russ, clad in Mega Armor and wielding a power claw; leading the Orks to victory with a mighty WAAAGHH!!!!! And, if you take Leman Russ, you can take a retinue of Space Wolves, armed with choppas and bolt pistols... :wink:

 

[Jacobite]

Logan Grimnar is coming for you dude, don't run you'll only die tired.

 

[cccp]

kelvin, youve got it bang on there.

and i dont know why there is a LR and a LRBT but theres another rule to exploit!

 

[Cadian81st]

Logan Grimnar is coming for you dude, don't run you'll only die tired.

I enjoy my weird sense of humor, thank you very much.

 

[kelvingreen]

kelvin, youve got it bang on there.

and i dont know why there is a LR and a LRBT but theres another rule to exploit!

It would make for one heck of a conversion!

I would love to give it a try, just so that when someone asks why I have a Primarch in my Ork army, I just point to the Codex! Oh, GW and your weird proof-reading... :roll:

 

[Cadian81st]

The Imperium's gonna be pissed when they find out he left to start a WAAAGH...

 

[Jacobite]

Well Russ did say he would be back for the "wolf time", is it possible that he could have said "Waagh Time?

 

[cccp]

be back for the "wolf time"

back for hammer time?

*gets out baggy trousers and starts dancing*

 

[kelvingreen]

Well Russ did say he would be back for the "wolf time", is it possible that he could have said "Waagh Time?

Well, he did leave during a feast, and "waagh" might sound like "wolf" if you've got a mouth full of Space Wolf pop tarts.

 

[Cadian81st]

Heh, yet another way the SW diverge from the Index Astartes. They ignore the part that says, "And thou shalt only eat Ultramarines pop-tarts, for the Ultramarines are Games Workshop's chosen."

 

[Jezlad]

OMG.

You guys didn't know?

He joined the Gladiators.

 

[Cadian81st]

That would explain why the SW were able to find his armor.

 

[black chaplain]

would one say leman russ battle tank and one say leman russ demolisher?

 

[kelvingreen]

I quote:
A looted vehicle may be chosen from one of the following army list entries in the Warhammer 40,00 rulebook:
Imperial Guard: Chimera, Hellhound, Griffon, Leman Russ battle tank, Leman Russ, Demolisher, Basilisk.

Now that I'm typing it, that comma before "Demolisher" is a misprint, isn't it? :roll:

 

[cccp]

i would think so yeah. i cant think of any reason why it would be otherwise.

 

[kelvingreen]

Still, the ambiguous comma means I could field a Primarch, and that's all that counts! :wink:

I think I got confused because I was sure that I saw somewhere that a "vanilla" Russ (without sponsons) had a special name to differentiate it from the fully kitted out Battle Tank.