[Dînadan]

where is all this shite about Russ or Angron being the shortest primarch coming from?

could people at least try to cite a few sources before spouting whatever nonsense pops up in their heads?

The Angron comment is based on recently released artwork of the cover of one of the upcomming HH books - in it Agron looks like a red goblin compared to the other primarchs.

The Russ comment is based on the fact that he's the only primarch with an offical mini, which is the same hight (perhaps even smaller due to scale creep) as a regular marine mini. combine this with the fact that all other primarchs are refered to as larger than regular marines and you get the concept that Russ was a midgit.

 

[MontytheMighty]

The Angron comment is based on recently released artwork of the cover of one of the upcomming HH books - in it Agron looks like a red goblin compared to the other primarchs.

right, but in that piece of art, he's in the back and leaning down against the railing, he's also next to Magnus the Giant...but I see how some people are capable of such assumptions

 

[Euphrati]

On Russ' hair: Prospero Burns, page 319- 'The Wolf King's hair was long. Thick plaits of it hung down across his chest plate, weighted at the tips by polished stones. The rest was lacquered into a spiked mane. Hawser had heard many stories about the Wolf King from the men of Tra. They had all described his hair as red, or the colour of rust, or of molten copper. Hawser wasn't so sure. To him, the Wolf King's mane looked like bright blond hair stained in blood.'

So, basically that shade of red-blond that depends on the light as to if it looks more red or more blond.

On Russ' height/size: Prospero Burns, page 317- 'Hawser was mesmerized by the primarch's size. Every physical dimension exceeded that of an Astartes. It was like meeting a god. It was as though one of the great and perfectly proportioned statues of classical antiquity, one scaled fifty or seventy-five per cent bigger than human standard, had come to life.'

That would put Russ at about 9-10 feet tall if the average 'human standard' in 40k is considered to be 6 ft tall (give or take a bit). Even being one of the 'shorter' primarchs, that still put him looking down at any human by a fair degree.

 

[MEQinc]

According to Legion, Alpharius should be the shortest primarch. He's the size of a large space marine (space marine height doesn't vary as much as "mortal" height, but it still varies).

However, when Horus and Alpharius first meet, Horus instantly recognizes Alpharius as a primarch, in part because of Alpharius' size (Index Astartes)

Well given that a Space Marine is 7-8 feet and Alpharius is still slightly taller than that he would stand out quite a bit from conventional humans.

Russ is noted as being around 9 feet tall, which isn't huge for a Primarch and probably puts him in the running for smallest.

Angron's height is never mentioned. Given the picture we have of him he appears to be roughly average for a Primarch, possibly slightly on the small side.

 

[Chompy Bits]

Angron's height is never mentioned. Given the picture we have of him he appears to be roughly average for a Primarch, possibly slightly on the small side.

Actually, p.61 of Galaxy in Flames

Angron was huge, easily as tall as the Warmaster, but also massively broad, with wide hulking shoulders like some enormous beast of burden.

So yeah, Angron is definitely NOT one of the smaller primarchs.

 

[Delta1]

right, but in that piece of art, he's in the back and leaning down against the railing, he's also next to Magnus the Giant...but I see how some people are capable of such assumptions

can you provide a link to this art?

 

[MEQinc]

can you provide a link to this art?

There's a thread about it here: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98757

also provides discussion of Angron's height.

 

[NoSoulJoel]

It is him. He is the shortest Primarch.

He is essentially your typical dwarf in the bar laughing at everything and fearing nothing fantasy character based on the vikings.

But I agree he should be a lot wider as he is depicted in the fluff but I suppose it would make him look fat/comical if they went too far.

Alpharius is the shortest but Leman isn't the tallest Primarch