Legal/illegal model painting and bashing?

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ohiocat110

Discussion Starter · Sep 17, 2010

I took a spin around the modeling threads but it seems more appropriate to post the question here. What I'm looking for is an explanation of the limits of modifying and bashing models when it comes to game rules. I'll narrow it down with some specifics:

1. Can I make a model taller or shorter than it would typically stand mounted on a plain black base? Example, could I cut the foot stands off a WH Seraphim and replace them with something else?

2. Do base sizes matter? Example, could I mount a character model on a slightly larger/taller base for dramatic effect, or must we use what they come with?

3. Are their size or height limitations when it comes to bashing models or adding wargear? Am I in violation of the rules if I make a model wider, taller, shorter, or longer by adding gear?

I really enjoy the hobby aspect of model collecting and painting, but I'd like to keep them tournament legal. Any advice would be appreciated. If there's an existing thread on this, please redirect me as I didn't see one.

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unixknight

· #3 · Sep 17, 2010

What Stella said.

But to be specific:

ohiocat110 said:
1. Can I make a model taller or shorter than it would typically stand mounted on a plain black base? Example, could I cut the foot stands off a WH Seraphim and replace them with something else?

Yes.

ohiocat110 said:
2. Do base sizes matter? Example, could I mount a character model on a slightly larger/taller base for dramatic effect, or must we use what they come with?

Yes, base sizes matter. The model must be on the size base it came with.

ohiocat110 said:
3. Are their size or height limitations when it comes to bashing models or adding wargear? Am I in violation of the rules if I make a model wider, taller, shorter, or longer by adding gear?

The short answer is no, keeping in mind the wargear depicted on the model must match the equipment given to it in your list. WYSIWYG.

Games Workshop encourages kitbashing and you can often see good examples in White Dwarf.

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unixknight

· #16 · Sep 20, 2010

chromedog said:
That was last edition. Under 5th ed 40k, there is no longer such an allowance. Models must be on the bases they are supplied with. ONLY if it is supplied with two bases (one large, one small) are you permitted to use the larger base as either of them are the supplied ones.

Now here's a question just for discussion:

I have some old style Terminators that came with the small bases back in the day. In order to include them in my squad of more current Terminators, I attached them to the larger bases. So far, nobody's had a problem with that.

What say you all?

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hippypancake said:
I've had this discussion with tourny runners all the time

one base size up is ok that is it

so if you're guy is on a small base you can bump him to a medium base

I guess that prettymuch answers it

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