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Hey everybody, it seems I can't shake the allure of Tzeench (particuarly the Thousand Sons) and trying to come up with a competitive list is super frustrating so I was curious to ask if anyone else deceided to use the 3rd Ed. CSM Codex as it is far superior in some aspects to the 4th Ed. and if so did you/they receive a lot of flak for it?
 

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yes. If you where using the old codex becuase of modals/rules that where no longer done for example Cultists then i should be fine but using the old codex just becuase it's better for your army is playing somewhat unfair
 

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Between you and your friends, you can do whatever you agree to. But I sincerely doubt that anyone would allow it if you just walked in and announced you were using it. I wouldn't.
 

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Old is not the same as out-of-date.

Using an out-of-date codex is bad juju, using an old one just means GW does not love your faction.
 

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The only instance where I'd agree to play against an outdated codex (not merely old, but replaced) is in Apocalypse. In Apoc, all the normal rules pretty much go out the window, which is what I love about it, so there isn't much hard stretching the rules even further.
 

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I think its perfectly fine as long as you playing against another 3rd edition codex army with 3rd edition 40k rules and your miniatures are painted in the style of the day and all your models were produced in that era and you have travelled to the nearest point in time space when your codex choice was still valid.


In all seriousness though as long as the person your playing is ok with it i couldn't give a hoot.



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The only instance where I'd agree to play against an outdated codex (not merely old, but replaced) is in Apocalypse. In Apoc, all the normal rules pretty much go out the window, which is what I love about it, so there isn't much hard stretching the rules even further.
This is how we role in my game group now.
Here is the actual houserulig in our rules folder.


Game club houserules
Core rules


*All revisions to these rules or additions must be made by unanimous decision. If anyone disagrees with these rules then the changes or new rules do not stand.

*All games are played using the version 5 rulebook.

*All games up to 3,000 points should be played using the latest additions of the relevant codex. No exception. There will be occasions when this will mean two items on the battlefield are the same but have different rules. For example Chimera’s vary in a witchhunter army and an imperial guard army due to the fact that the latest witchhunters list is a 3rd ed codex and the latest Imperial guard codex is 5th edition. If a codex refers to entries in another codex then the other codex does not have to be the current dex. EG: Codex eye of terror holds the only “Lost and the damned” army list. This list refers to the chaos as well as the imperial guard codexes. The units which it borrows should be from the correct codex at the time of production (so in this case codex chaos 3.5 ed and codex imperial guard 3rd ed) not the current codexes as the units they refer to may no longer exist in newer rules.

*Games which use the apocalypse rules may include units from any available codex though each unit may not mix rules from several codexes. In this way you may create more interesting characters for apocalypse games but their rules would be exactly as they were in the codex you used to create them. Creating a third edition ork warboss for example means that if he takes a “’uge chopper” he will gain the +2 to his strength but will be hitting last whereas creating a 4th ed ork warboss with a ‘uge chopper will mean he still gains the +2 strength but hits in initiative order.

*Custom units may be used only in apocalypse games and must be designed and agreed upon by every player. This can be vetoed at any time between games if the unit proves to be unbalanced and the rules should be rewritten. Units created in this way should be represented by relevant models. No designing a killy tank of death and then putting a shoebox down to represent it. Where possible existing rules or the VDR rules published in chapter approved should be used for this.
 

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Well, I would not exactly let you into a tournament with an out-dated one...
 

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I just played a game with Codex: Harlequins so old is ok but if your using a codex that has already been updated you would be invoking the Chaos gods to eat your soul...so yeah...don't do it
 

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in a GW or club or competitive environment, if its been replaced by a new codex, I'd have to say tough shit, especially in the case of the previous chaos codex, that thing was utterly ridiculous.

if its just an old codex or a supplement and has not been replaced or had an official "do not use" sticker put on it, then go ahead and use it, heck its the only way Dark eldar can do it after all, as long as its compatible with the rules today.

otherwise make up house rules for use with friends, or just use the old codex with friends (although the previous codex was designed more to lose friends), but don't rely on it to be your main codex of choice.
 
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