Ultramarines.... everyone does it.... and everyone is annoyed that everyone does it...

 

I've never liked the orks. I could deal with them if they were portrayed as fearsome barbaric monsters, but the way GW has thrown in all those lame, unfunny jokes and stories into their fluff just pisses me off.

I've never liked the inquisition either.

 

hhmmm, that's hard to choose. I guess there isn't a race that I particularly have a dislike for fluffwise, expect if the Squats count.

 

I don`t like the Eldar too much.

But for least liked, probably the Tau. They come across as benevolent and peaceful, then if you politely say No Thanks, you get vapourised.

It`s the sort of underhanded false preaching that I despise. At leat with the Imperium (who I hate) you know where you stand.

ie: We`re xeno, so they`re gonna try kill us. :shok:

 

I'd have to go with the Inquisition, and after reading The First Heretic - ultra-loyalists in general piss me off. Not going to spoil the book for those that haven't read it, but a few things in there really had me siding with Chaos and throwing up the finger at the False Emperor. To state my reasoning a bit more specifically for those of you that have read the book, while ensuring those that haven't don't get royaly pissed: think back to the part of the book in which you find out how the Primarchs were created, and what the Emperor did to piss on Chaos. That whole 10 pages or so really shows the arrogance of the False Emperor, and likewise, the Imperium as a whole

 

That is assuming everything or anything that was seen in that vision was actually true

 

space marines in general.

 

Tau. I hate Tau. That whole greater good blah blah, share, peace and love. Bunch of space hippies. Burn em.

 

Everybody hates the eldar.
The problem is that all the writers (well most) love the space marines and make them next to indestructible and they all hate the eldar, even path of the warrior wasn't particularly flattering.
But because all the official cannon writers hate the eldar, they make them worse, so the eldar are forced into being terrible, if that makes sense.

I know none of you will agree with this but the main point is that almost everyone hates the eldar. (But i still love them.)

p.s. if you don't belive me im sure that if you did a quick tally you would find this truthful (i haven't bothered to count though).

 

I'm suprised the Necrons haven't been mentioned.

They seem pretty cool with the whole Eygptian angle, but their fluff is incredibly under-developed.

Also if you are talking of overpowered, drop Space Marines from the conversation and vote for the Necrons. When they wake up, the fluff basically says ... "Your all screwed!". Which is incredibly one dimensional.

I'm also suprised people hate the Eldar, they have for my mind, one of the best pieces of fluff ever written, 'The Fall'.

Basically take a long look at the Dark Eldar, thats what the Eldar had become by the time of The Fall, how awesome is that?

Also 'regular' Eldar may be a little space hippish, but the fact they are f*cked and are still able to run rings around most enemies tells you an awful lot about them and their powers. Also viewing the Imperium as monkeys is awesome, just like:

FRIEZA!!!

So like I said, until their fluff is developed more, for me, it's gotta be Necrons.

 

I'm also suprised people hate the Eldar, they have for my mind, one of the best pieces of fluff ever written, 'The Fall'.

Like I said, I hate the Eldar because they are a bunch of arrogant jackasses who see themselves as being better than everyone else, even though they caused one of the biggest fuckups in the history of the galaxy. The Imperium is crumbling because they're getting attacked from all angles. Why did the Eldar empire crumble? Because they got bored.

 

the tau. like comrade said they act all nice and goody but refuse your turned to a pile of plasma mush.

 

The Eldar. I hate elves. They are elves in space. (Minus the one or two that resemble ninjas)

 

Definitely either Eldar or Tau; Eldar because I despise pansy elves in general and Tau because of their fluff in general and the fact that they don't even play a large role at all the galactic scene and only survived by luck, heck they only face maybe 1/10 at the most of what most other races have to deal with.

And as Warcraft 3 Garithos says:

"NEVER TRUST AN ELF!"

 

Dark Eldar. By a long shot.

 

There's something about the Eldar that just annoy me. I also am not very fond of the Sisters of Battle, which is a shame as I love the Inquisition as a whole.

 

Tau.

They don't really have any purpose in 40k.

 

Tsssk... we've covered this already. The Tau are space hippies with railguns. Duh.

 

I hate Chaos, the way it takes everything positive good and nice and finds a way of turning it "evil" (couldn't think of a better word here but I'm sure there is one).

I hate the whole "chaos is inevitable and has existed since the beginning of time" stuff too.

Finally I hate Lorgar and the Word Bearers for being the biggest bunch of whingy whiney cry babies who've ever existed and the First Heretic just reinforces this for me. I've got a 2 year old daughter and their reactions in the First Heretic just remind me of when she doesn't get her own way and throws a tantrum.

 

Dark Eldar.

Really can't be bothered with sub-Barker tortureporn alien sexelves.


Tau

Ill-concieved and mishandled since their inception IMHO.

 

Definitely Black Legion and Red Corsairs. BL are led by the biggest pile of fail in the galaxy, Abaddon, and the Red Corsairs are even smaller than the Tau. Just a bunch of pirates and loners, angry that they failed because Horus was a dick and turned off his shields (Or the Chaos Gods were stupid for letting him keep a fraction of himself pure and righteous). Just shut up and deal with it. You had your chance and you FLUFFED IT.

Midnight

 

The nids.

All of the forces in 40k are talked about like they are "Unstoppable Forces/Immovable Objects" yet the Nids are the only true "Unstoppable Force."

They have no weakness in the current scheme of things. Even fighting the Orcs, they have a near unlimited amount of biomass to consume.

I'm not a fan of an army that has it written into their fluff that they are unstoppable.

Orcs also annoy me, as they have the power to alter reality if they believe hard enough.

Edit: For the people who will say Necrons are "Unstoppable," consider most are unable to be woken up, and many tomb worlds are damaged beyond repair. Hell, one Imperial Worlds trains it's PDF and IG regiments by haveing the Necrons attacked timed down. Not a very Unstoppable force.

 

For the people who will say Necrons are "Unstoppable," consider most are unable to be woken up, and many tomb worlds are damaged beyond repair. Hell, one Imperial Worlds trains it's PDF and IG regiments by haveing the Necrons attacked timed down. Not a very Unstoppable force.

Most are unable to be woken up? the rulebook talks about malfunctions in the tomb worlds, but it hardly says most.

If you want unstoppable, read Dark Creed, a single Necron ship comes in and pretty much ignores the firepower of an entire Chaos fleet and lands an army that sweeps away everybody on the ground. They have a short story in the Necron Codex where a group of Necrons pretty much walks though an entire Cadian regiment with ease. I have not read Dead Men Walking myself, but from the descriptions they sound to be incredibly tough in that book.

 

what's with all the ork hate? yes i know it's supposed to be grim and dark but a little light comedy isnt bad now and again right? that's why we have orks! besides they still are a force to be reckoned with killin and choppin anything in the path of the WAAAAGH!

anyway onto the factions i hate....basically tau and anything in power armour.

tau cos the greater good? maybe its my selfish human mind set but that doesnt compute


power armour people cos the IG do all the hard work :laugh:

 

Ahh, Dark Creed, that was the book I was thinking of. Couldnt remember if it was a Word Bearers or Soul Drinkers book. Either way, the Necron ships kicked some major ass.

But here is the thing, you can read any book you like, and say "Oh look here, this army is shit, they got their asses kicked by so and so in this book!". What people fail to realize, is that the main army the book is about will be portrayed in the best light. A Necron fan isn't going to pick up a Word Bearers book simply because there is a battle with the Necrons in the book. The Word Bearers were the focus of the book, and will kick the most ass in the end. Sure, they ran into some difficulties with the Necrons completely out powering them, but they came out successful after a rather unlikely series of events. The same would go for the Blood Angels Omnibus I am reading right now, first 10 pages and the Word Bearers have gotten their asses handed to them (sort of).


Anyways, the point I am trying to make - basing the power of an army off of a Black Library book, or even a codex, won't make that judgement accurate. The books are written to appeal to players of certain armies (or just fans of BL ) and the army the book is about will almost always be portrayed as "over powered" in some form - almost always. It makes it more appealing for the players of the army doing the ass kicking.

 

Taht's true, except in the Word Bearers books the Necrons where portrayed as an unstoppable tide of destruction. The best the Word Bearers could do in their own book was slow them down.

Same in the Cain books. Cain makes it very clear that if he took on a Necron in a straight fight he would be dead. He wins against Necrons, but only because he cheats and destroys the Necron tomb before they can awaken. In Cain's Last Stand he pretty much tells the PDF to stay out of the way of the Necrons. The Necrons are always portrayed as a foe that Cain is honestly completely 100% scared of.

 

The Necrons. I nothing them. I would never have an Ork or Tau army, I wont even play as them on Dawn of War, but I don't even like presence of the Necrons. I at least like the Tau and Orks as enemies.

 

Sounds like fear to me

 

Orks. They're just stupid- I can't take them seriously. I would never create a greenskin army. Although I'm more than happy to blow one apart.

 

Definitely the Eldar.

Too slender looking and very very camp.

Big talk about how good they are with their damn mind war and avatars - but they're too pussy to step foot in the warp and get royally fucked up by Khorne. :ireful2:

I hate IG aswell, boring army, the tanks look so cartoony, and it's just the army really.. they're not sci-fi enough.

 

Definitely the Eldar.

Too slender looking and very very camp.

Big talk about how good they are with their damn mind war and avatars - but they're too pussy to step foot in the warp and get royally fucked up by Khorne. :ireful2:

I hate IG aswell, boring army, the tanks look so cartoony, and it's just the army really.. they're not sci-fi enough.

In games Eldar certainly piss me off, camping back and shooting the shit out of the troops I was dumb enough to leave out of tanks. Fluff wise - don't know enough about them to have a strong opinion one way or the other.

When it comes to IG though - I'd have to disagree, they may not be extremely sci-fi, and would benefit with more augmentations (I think the Mechanicum should take the IG on as a personal project, and turn them into cyborgs ) However, the Imperium needs shock troops, can't make everyone SM, so the IG are for the less serious operations, or used as cannon fodder for the SM. Currently, some would argue that the IG have one of the better competetive codexes out there for tournaments and such. And the FW traitor guard minis are pretty cool though when I played them, I got my ass handed to me.

I wish GW would take some suggestions more seriously when it comes to rules and new codecies. I would love to see some Chaos Cultists in a future Chaos codex - if they were to make the codex more individual to the Chapter you play, Word Bearers and the like would be able to field them, they would play like a normal IG troop choice, but be basic cannon fodder and make for cool conversions/minis.

 

Chaos in my opinion.

I'm tired of hearing the "Universe is doomed! The gods will prevail! It has been written!".

I mean come on, such arrogance is not becoming of toys for dark deities!