Hey guys, lets all live the 1980's it was fun then, because Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saviles weren't called paedophiles then and there was drugs and no Justin Beiber and you only had to play Space Marines because fatmantis says so.for me it really depends on what kinda of player you are and what kindof group you play in..
your your a WAAC player then for broke with six and you should win m 90% of your games..and loose 100% friends haha..no seriously for WAAC go nuts mate..
if you play cirlce wants to go up against then go for it...i rmemeber i time when the way to write a good list was how to deal with TEQ and MEQ..now you really need to write a list how to deal with SH.
i suppose just talk with your buddies and find some narrative ways to play multiple knights...mega battles..campaigns etc
They haven't placed particularly well in any of the major tournaments so far as I'm aware. Armies with a strong Knight presence? Oh, yeah, for sure; AdLance is a very strong formation. Pure Knights? Not so much.Why do you say that?
They are resilient, mobile, can capture objectives and pack a tonne of firepower
Unfortunately most of your arguement is undone by the fact their is a new book, by bringing up old tournaments. Thats like saying upon the release of the most recent Tau codex that their previous one was not very successful so this one wont beThey haven't placed particularly well in any of the major tournaments so far as I'm aware. Armies with a strong Knight presence? Oh, yeah, for sure; AdLance is a very strong formation. Pure Knights? Not so much.
They also really, really don't pack a tonne of firepower, at least in their Paladin and Errant forms. The Crusader I've yet to see since it's so new, but I can't imagine it's particularly efficient either. You need to be really, really good at something for 400pts, not just throw a Str9 AP1 Large Blast or a pair of Battle Cannon shots somewhere.
Their resilience is also easy to overestimate, I think. If you line up and let them run at you with AV13 and Ion Shields, they're bastards, but since they're so low model count getting relevant guns into multiple arcs isn't particularly difficult.
A 325 Point KnightI don't think that being able to add on a Bolt Cannon instead of your Reaper Chainsword is actually going to break Knights wide open, actually, and given that's basically all the new book has added...
I think this is a pretty good rule of thumb.usually 1 per 1000 pts are a tough but doable battle (not at 1000 pts...but 2 at 2000 it's ok). If you run 4 at 1500...just take a 2 Warhounds titan and stop even pretending it's not penis lenght issues :biggrin:
what on earth are you talking about!! "because i said so??" i never said knights where overpowered or unbeatable etc..i my self am building 6 crusaders..Hey guys, lets all live the 1980's it was fun then, because Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saviles weren't called paedophiles then and there was drugs and no Justin Beiber and you only had to play Space Marines because fatmantis says so.
As a note, fellow readers - this kind of thinking (not mine, I mean, Fatmantis) is the reason why 40k is sometimes listed as stale and slow moving. Unfortunately, the design team is apparently split right down the middle. Why are plasma pistols 15pts? Because they always were is not a good enough answer.