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Saw this on another board:

Originally Posted by Antaeus
He's down at UCC (my uni in Ireland) for Warpcon, and here's the few things I picked up:

*April among other things will see the release of Liber Apocalyptica, a regular release which deals with different sections of existing armies, then creates Apocalypse Datasheets for them. First up is Chaos with the Emperor's Children Noise Marines.

*There is currently a BloodBowl computer game in production for PC, Xbox 360, DS and Playstation (he didn't specify which one). It's going to be a blend of real time and turn based play, with different platforms having different combinations of the two.

*There are plans in place to implement the Chaos Legions in 40K. That means codex's for Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard etc...bear in mind this is pretty long run stuff.

*There's not going to be much in the way of Lost And The Damned as Jervis feels they're covered already and more suited to Apocalypse as it is.

*A new Imperial Guard codex is being talked about.

That's all I have time for, but I'll say some more stuff later.
Originally Posted by Antaeus
Ok, day two at the convention and I just had an awesome chat with Jervis, who has to be one of the most patient guys around. Honestly, he sat for 2 hours answering numerous questions thrown at him by fans, and he's wandering around the hall with his son answering loads more, stand up guy.

The idea behind the Chaos legions is that he felt that the last book tried to cover every aspect of the Chaos forces, and did it badly. The way he saw Chaos was as this huge amalgamation of different forces serving the Dark Gods, each deserving their own army book.

The current Chaos codex is meant to represent renegade marines, not necessarily the ancient 10,000 year old servants of Chaos. He felt that while splitting up the different aspects of Chaos into their separate sections while at first painful (as shown by the displeasure at the recent codex) will, in the long run, do each component part more justice than a small 20-30 page footnote in an army book.

Epic will receive some more support, as he feels it's currently pretty under-represented. A Space Wolf codex is high on the priority list, and he revealed they're among his favourite chapters, purely because they actually care about the civilians, they're the good guys as he put it.

He wants to release a book of scenarios for 40K as he feels most of the complaints from people come from the fact that there are a limited amount of scenarios and mission types, and people can tailor their armies to excel in those limited confines, and as such win more easily. He feels a more varied aproach to missions and scenarios might help to balance the game, rather than a more kill things and have more scoring units than your opponent aproach.

Nagash will make a return to the fantasy world. He's not quite sure how it'll be done, but he feels he deserves a new model, and possibly an army based around him. Key word being possible.

By the way, when I say long term plans, Jervis made it quite clear that at the bare minimum long tern = back end of next year. The guy thinks ahead in huge amounts.

He also refused to comment on rumours of 5th edition.

He was however incredibly forthcoming on the Fluff side of things, as I had about 15 minutes with him talking about one of (and his) favourite characters: Cypher.

Jervis revealed (and I can quote him on this) that Cypher is "absolutely NOT a Chaos Space Marine". The way he envisioned Cypher is as an avatar of redemption, that in some sense the fallen Dark Angels are the good guys, as they see their mistakes and learned from it, but the Dark Angels simply can't see past it, and instead decide to kill things to solve the problem. He also said that Cypher is not entirely human (or super human as the case may be) anymore due to the rend in reality that shattered Caliban, casting the fallen angels through space and time. He said there's a mystical aspect to his character. He also explained a lot of where he got the idea from, a Clint Eastwood movie called High Plains Drifter was his main inspiration.
Originally Posted by Antaeus
Right, day two of Jervis bothering is over.

Chaos legions WILL be getting a full codex. His exact words were "if we're going to do things, we're going to do them right."

Dark Eldar are HIGH on the list guys. Alien hunters isn't on the radar, since the focus is on updating current army lists rather than starting new ones. This means Dark Eldar, Guard and Space Wolf players are going to be happy

Sorry for you armoured company guys, Jervis mentioned when I asked that they'd be ridiculously hard to manage balance wise, but they're throwing around the idea of giving Guard maybe 4 Heavy Support slots. He first said 6 and then when my eyes widened in shock he laughed and shrugged, "Well maybe 4...". He feels armoured company are better off in Apocalypse, and he might do a datasheet on them for it, but as far as 40K it doesn't look good.

Jez Goodwin (hope I spelt that right) is already throwing around some concepts for Dark Eldar plastics btw.

Update on Liber Apocalyptica. Based on what he said last night and today it's going to be a White Dwarf segment. The April edition contains a datasheet for an Emperor's Children Warband, with lots of juicy sonic weapons. I mentioned how your army got raped BA, which kinda led back onto the legions.

Basically Jervis sort of apologised for the Chaos codex. He said they regret not letting Chaos guys in on what the big picture was, and he feels they probably should have pushed that angle a little more (hindsight is always 20/20 though...).

Also Void Dragon fans don't hold your breath. I asked him if we're going to learn any more about it and it was the only question I asked to which he replied he has no idea.

Unfortunately I can't ask him any more. I'd like to but I've talked to him about 5 times with at least 3 questions per conversation. Sorry guys.

Still, a nice bit of juicy info there
 

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DAMN.
I must say i am excited for the chaos legion army books, however what will that mean for the normal CSM codex? As in the legion troop choices in it?
 

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Some very good news there. I know they want to push the new dexes out as fast as possible but I wish they would put a new army out (and no I do not mean a new imperial). Over all some good bits there.
 

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A Space Wolf codex is high on the priority list, and he revealed they're among his favourite chapters, purely because they actually care about the civilians, they're the good guys as he put it.
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I imagine it'll be the 4 committed legions. The others will either get one book covering all of them, or (more likely) have to make do with codex baddy marines.

So codex emperors children, codex thousand sons, codex death guard, and codex world eaters. (bound to be most popular)

If theyre smart about it, they'll put in pre heresy lists as well, which would go a long way towards winning back the support they lost with the latest chaos dex. No need for extra models, just a few new lists.
 

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In the and it has been proven, that Jervis Johnson is not the Avatar of Doom and Despair, he's more like a nice guy though.

I'm impressed.

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what ever happened to cypher i remember playing before he came out and everyone was liek awesome and i havent seen him since i restarted
 

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DAMN.
I must say i am excited for the chaos legion army books, however what will that mean for the normal CSM codex? As in the legion troop choices in it?

I would imagine they will be the same as you will then be using a 'renegade' force that only has a troop unit or two from the cults, while ALL the units from the new books will be cult units and will vary a bit from the ones in the current dex. It will be no different really than SM's now are from BT, DA, etc.
 

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Cool. I like the sound of a new guard codex. I hope they improve the humble lasgun. In the fluff, it says they are very reliable weapon. I hope this implemented into the game.
 

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Cool. I like the sound of a new guard codex. I hope they improve the humble lasgun. In the fluff, it says they are very reliable weapon. I hope this implemented into the game.
It is implemented in the game! You know that almost no matter how many lasguns you fire at something, it'll probably still survive! They're reliably poor. :)

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Dear santa,

i know its early but if i'm a really really good boy this year can you get me the awesome 4 books of chaos for christmas. If however the 4 books of chaos suck disregard the last statement and get me the new Imperial guard one instead (that still had doctrines and just as much customisability as it does now). If that also sucks and the writers drop the ball more than a newly wed husband drops his 300 pound wife as they cross the threshold, i wont want anything from GW this year but i simply request that whoever wrote the sucky chaos codex get coal for the rest of time.

Thanks in advance. Alex
 

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if chaos get codex demons / legions

why didnt eldar get a codex for craftworlds


you have one for

blood angels
dark angels
space wolves
black templars

so

chaos is gettng a codex for the gods

and legions

and eldar get nothing like that

maybe eldar should only have one color then
 

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OH NOES! My AC is almost illiegal!!! Eh, well, there's the redeeming factor for Apocalypse. And another sin to lay on the head of Jervis Johnson. Infidel. 4000 Points of tanks and suddenly POOF! They're now unusable.

Loving the sorrow over the Chaos Dex. Finally, the man is breaking down! Call for a Chaos Thunderhawk in Heavy Support!
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It is implemented in the game! You know that almost no matter how many lasguns you fire at something, it'll probably still survive! They're reliably poor. :)

Katie D
As true as that is the sheer amount is where it comes into its' own life. Besides the other spectrum of that is you're not paying the points for the lasgun you're buying your heavy weapon extra wounds if you think of it from a strictly IG mindset.

IG is about man made sandbags, er excuse me Made of men sandbags in fact you should accumulate a cover save the more that die in a squad! J/K
 
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