My friend's order just came in from wayland games and over the course of the weekend we played 4 games. I've got to say that the hardest hitting unit I have ever encountered is Logan Grimnar accompanied by 7 thunder hammer storm shield terminators coming out of a Crusader. It's absolute madness! That unit alone has won him 3 of the 4 games. I tried stopping the Crusader before it could deploy it's ravenous payload; really tough with av 14. I've tried tempting him with some lesser units then jumping in a ton of berzerker squads, he wiped them off the board like they were flies on a windshield. Then, I tried avoiding it altogether in a 2500 point kill point mission but they kept finding their way into combat and picked up 3 kp's alone. It's like an atomic bomb I have no idea what to do!