I've decided I want the Mayhem pack over the Helcult, simply because I don't want to deal with a small mess and it feels slightly more enjoyable to throw Demon Engines and machines at people than have more cultists spamming about. That being said I have a small dilemma that is causing me a OCD matter, I'm 5 points over the limit and I don't want to be! I have a couple of options to choose, and all of them are light. In the process of dropping the heavy flamers, I added a couple of bikers as I was repeatedly informed elsewhere that having a minimum of three bikers wasn't worth it. I don't want spawn either, so I made the decision to have more marines instead of more
beautiful flamethrowers.
Chaos Lord- MoN, Bike, LC, PF
5x PMs - 2x melta, Rhino
5x PMs - 2x melta, Rhino
5x PMs - 2x plasma, Rhino
Helbrute - MM / PF
Helbrute - MM / PF
Helbrute - PC / PF
2x Baledrakes
5x Chaos Bikers - 2x Melta, MoN, Champ w/ Melta Bombs, Power Axe
As it stands, I love the list. Despite hating meta groups, I love the way the Heldrakes look (I love Dragons, I'm thinking of some awesome conversion ideas). However, I want the list to be at the most exactly 1500. So I'm at 1505 and I have a few options:
- Change the Lord's loadout to something without the Power fist (Unwieldy is questionable)
- Drop a Rhino (sounds terrible)
- Drop the Plasma Cannon (headache because I bought a OOP Chaos Dread that I like)
- Drop the Bike Champs melta bombs (Unsure)
- Drop the biker squad from 5 to 4 (My understanding is 5 would be a minimum threshold)
- Change the Heldrakes to (gasp) Blight Drones
I had one time considered dumping 3 autocannons on my Helbrutes, but that was because I was having a dakka moment. Thankfully it passed.

When I upgrade to 1750-2000, I will be including lassponsonautopreds or Obliterators.