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Yep, no one, not even the High Lords themselves are above the remit of the Inquisition. Though they will need a significant amount of support and/or influence to do anything extreme and actually succeed in doing so. Astartes are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitors request as they are to follow it however, depending on their relationship.

Key example as ever being the Space Wolves, of what can happen if an Inquisitor attempts to exert his authority over the Astartes without fully comprehending the fallout of such actions. The Wolves utterly disregard the Inquisitor in charge of the cleanup and fallout of the First War for Armageddon, actually killing him in the end as well as several Grey Knights with him, including a Grand Master.
 

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Astartes are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitors request as they are to follow it however, depending on their relationship.
I suppose it depends on the Chapter. The proud Chapters of the First Founding (and even the prestigious few of the Second Founding) would be quite willing to defy the Inquisition if they thought it was right to do so, or in their own self-defence. As would many other Chapters of subsequent Foundings. However, I wouldn't say that all Chapters or Space Marines are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitor's request as they are to follow it. They are all well aware of the power and necessity of the Inquisition.

Key example as ever being the Space Wolves, of what can happen if an Inquisitor attempts to exert his authority over the Astartes without fully comprehending the fallout of such actions. The Wolves utterly disregard the Inquisitor in charge of the cleanup and fallout of the First War for Armageddon, actually killing him in the end as well as several Grey Knights with him, including a Grand Master.
True. Though the problem with using the Space Wolves as a key example is that they're widely known as anti-authoritarian and even ignore the Codex (the corner stone of the philosophy and law of 99% of the Adeptus Astartes). Some Chapters would willingly defy the Inquisition, but I would wouldn't claim most would readily do so.
 

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Can an inquisitor do that even to space marines
The Inquisitor did nothing to the Space Marines. He, technically, has no Inquisitorial rights to do anything to a Space Marine neophyte. This bars any specific oath or fealty the marines may owe to a specific Inquisitor.

What the Inquisitor did was command the Imperial Guard to cease their support of the Space Marine contingent. THAT is well within an Inquisitor's power.
 

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I see in one of the dawn of war games the big cluster fuck in which imperial guard, space marines and sister of battle fought each other The guard refused to follow the blood ravens orders to leave due to having orders from the IG top brass.

I guess if an inquisitor told the guard to leave they would. Where the hell was inquistion during this cluster fuck of a campaign
 

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The guard refused to follow the blood ravens orders to leave due to having orders from the IG top brass.
Generally that'd be correct. The Space Marines also have no rights to command the Guard. They're two separate entities.

This isn't to say that some Imperial Guard commanders wouldn't be intimidated or respect the majesty of the Adeptus Astartes to obey them, anyway. Some would.
 

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Generally that'd be correct. The Space Marines also have no rights to command the Guard. They're two separate entities.

This isn't to say that some Imperial Guard commanders wouldn't be intimidated or respect the majesty of the Adeptus Astartes to obey them, anyway. Some would.
Yeah most loyal guard would love to fight alongside them (cept the marines malevolent)but when inquisitor says nope the space marine ain't getting any support from you imperial guard have to obey since its unhealthy to disobey an inquisitor.
 

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True. Though the problem with using the Space Wolves as a key example is that they're widely known as anti-authoritarian and even ignore the Codex (the corner stone of the philosophy and law of 99% of the Adeptus Astartes). Some Chapters would willingly defy the Inquisition, but I would wouldn't claim most would readily do so.
I agree. The SWs are the exception rather than the rule. Their standing as a first founding chapter and proven willingness to go toe to toe with the so called forces of authority gives them a lot of leeway most others wouldn't ever get. Most other chapters would dance to any tune played by an Inquisitor. Some, like the Exorcists and Red Hunters, have very close ties to the Inquisition.

Look what happens to chapters that piss off the Inquisition. We have two prime examples in the Relictors and Celestial Lions.
 

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I agree. The SWs are the exception rather than the rule. Their standing as a first founding chapter and proven willingness to go toe to toe with the so called forces of authority gives them a lot of leeway most others wouldn't ever get. Most other chapters would dance to any tune played by an Inquisitor. Some, like the Exorcists and Red Hunters, have very close ties to the Inquisition.

Look what happens to chapters that piss off the Inquisition. We have two prime examples in the Relictors and Celestial Lions.
Just thinking more about this, but I think the only branches the wolves have a problem with are ordo mallius and heriticus, they do provide marines to the deathwatch so they could very well have less of a problem with them.
 

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Just thinking more about this, but I think the only branches the wolves have a problem with are ordo mallius and heriticus, they do provide marines to the deathwatch so they could very well have less of a problem with them.
An Inquisitor's remit does not solely lie within the his ordo specialism. Just look at Eisenhorn. He was Ordo Xenos, but spent centuries fighting heretics and demons.

So if a Xenos Inquisitor sees something in the SWs he doesn't like, he's not really going to hold back just because they contribute to the DW.
 

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An Inquisitor's remit does not solely lie within the his ordo specialism. Just look at Eisenhorn. He was Ordo Xenos, but spent centuries fighting heretics and demons.

So if a Xenos Inquisitor sees something in the SWs he doesn't like, he's not really going to hold back just because they contribute to the DW.
Keep in mind that most inquisitors are pragmatic enough to realize that going against the wolves is a bad idea.

Even in the emperors gift most of the other inquisitors didn't agree with the head one.
 

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I thought they somewhere in fluff were advised to say please when it came to the Adeptus Mechanicus and Adeptus Asartes as both are rather prideful organizations. I would also poffer that advice about the Navigator Houses as great calamity could follow not being polite to them, I mean I rather not have a rather pissed off Navigator on my hands.

Of course the Inquisitors that does as they please along with commissars who are too strict dies very early according to Ciaphas Cain. I can't remember the exact line of quote, but comeon its Ciaphas Cain.
 

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The relationship with any organization within the Imperium is very confusing. None of the Adeptus are very united. The most united one would be the Mechanicus or perhaps the Arbites. This also goes for the Inquisition who, in my opinion, is the most disorganized one.

So Astartes Chapters may have more moral high-ground to stand on by opposing a single (or group) of inquisitors and may not actually be classified as opposing the entire Holy Order.
 

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The Celestial Lions went up against the Inquisitors before the war of Armageddon and did not get away with questioning the Imperial Inquisition. But they have all the hallmarks of being too stupid to live as they kept pressing the issue. If I recall correctly it was alluded that the High Lords of Terra even has a hand in their continuing demise (I'm phrasing it in this way as they are not quite dead yet), so yeah the Inquisition rules supreme, but knows to thread carefully in general around Space Marines.
 

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Dark Angel's literally have killed off multiple Inquisitors and their ships as well as high ranked Guard officials just to keep their secrets.

Also here is another question who has higher authority Ordo Maleus Inquisitor or a ranked Grey Knight ?
 

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The Grey Knights are subservient to the Inquisition more so than the other Chapters.

The Dark Angels only killed lone inquisitors without anyone watching. I doubt they'd want to do so out in the open.
Well it just feels like a Grey Knight Grand Master should and would out class and out smart any Maleus Inquisitor. I mean to be the best among the best definitely puts one in another league even compared to Inquisition. I can't even begin to imagine Draigo taking orders from a lowly human.

Also you should read Trials of Azrael short story.
 
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