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Righto as some of you may know I am picking up on the little know Codex Astartes Chapter, the Red Wolves.

So some WIP pics.

Dread i started for The Bloodied, now for the Wolves. It and later vehicles will be this darker shade of red.





not much progress on it tbh, hopefully with spare time approaching i can finish him up finally.

And Kane Hedström WIP pics





need to do red highlight touch ups. for a start, the rest is WIP

enjoy

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Update!

Kane Hedstrom (Pedro Kantor counts-as) is complete.










Decided to varnish him for protection after he decided to throw himself off the painting bench...twice.

The light isnt the greatest, its dark and I'm trying to use the house lights and torches XD

Enjoy

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Looking Good Buddy.

I like the red, its very vibrant and the highlights are great.

It looks like some of your paint might be a little to thick in places but the varnish can sometimes make it look that way.

Where you have done the wing parts. If you only add pure white the tips it will make it pop a little bit more.

All together a great job and His face is dynamic and awesome. Now get some pics of that dread up finished lol.
 

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Looking Good Buddy.

I like the red, its very vibrant and the highlights are great.

It looks like some of your paint might be a little to thick in places but the varnish can sometimes make it look that way.

Where you have done the wing parts. If you only add pure white the tips it will make it pop a little bit more.

All together a great job and His face is dynamic and awesome. Now get some pics of that dread up finished lol.
Cheers LTP,

If you can point out areas that look thick, I can tell you if it was paint or varnish, though on a whole it would be varnish, as if the paint is to thick I usually water it down.

The wings are a few layers; Astronomican Grey, Leviathan Purple wash, Skull White base, Leviathan purple wash again, Shull White on top.

His nose came out ok after his faceplant :wacko:

Dread is next in line as well as the Librarian.

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Nice work Grish. Red is great with the highlight. Although the paint does look a little thick or maybe it's the varnish being too shinny. The face is cool - you got the pupil good. I can tell you're a neat painter as your base is hardly touched lol. Perhaps do something for the base.
Looking forward to seeing the dread progress. Keep up the good work dude!
 

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Nice work, looks pretty cool from what I can see. Really vivid scheme, very well done.

Now for the critisism, I think the red needs a few more layers, I can see its well watered, so, there is no problems there. It's just more prominent on the Dread I guess, thats where I noticed it:

 

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Update folks.

The plans of these Wolves are progressing nicely. The basic extent to which I want to take this project is, first step, paint up my 2k and 2.25k list. then from there expand out until I have the whole Company, plus transports (Drop Pods).

It would end up being a list something to this effect;
2x 10man Sternguard Squads with Pods
4x Tactical Squads with Pods
2x Devastator Squads
2x Assault Squads
1x Scout Squad (designated from the 10th Company)
and the Company's Command Council
1x Venerable Dread with Pod
1x Hedstrom (kantor)
1x Librarian
1x Terminator Chappy
1x Emperor's Champion (counts as captain)
1x Command Squad
1x Master of the Forge

A nice little list imo.

We'll see how it progresses :p

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You there! Grish!

Of all the talk regarding your red wolves, I never was actually able to get around to monitor your project log. I'm sorry it's taken me this long to reply and get involved, so here I am!

The Kantor model looks great. However, I think the gloss varnish removes from the paint job (I personally don't use Varnish as all the times i've used it, it's ruined my models, so I don't bother!)

But with that said it's still a really bright, vibrant red with a nice black contrast. Did you take the scheme from the Codex? Looks spot on regardless.

Have some rep for your work, it's definitely deserving!

Talk to you soon chief.
 

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You there! Grish!

Of all the talk regarding your red wolves, I never was actually able to get around to monitor your project log. I'm sorry it's taken me this long to reply and get involved, so here I am!

The Kantor model looks great. However, I think the gloss varnish removes from the paint job (I personally don't use Varnish as all the times i've used it, it's ruined my models, so I don't bother!)

But with that said it's still a really bright, vibrant red with a nice black contrast. Did you take the scheme from the Codex? Looks spot on regardless.

Have some rep for your work, it's definitely deserving!

Talk to you soon chief.
Cheers Kob :eek:k:

The varnish, I really didnt want to do it to be honest, but after having a shit weekend with dropping bits; having to re model, strip and paint the face :headbutt:, fix the bolter, and in general, get the shits at the model hopping around, literally, i decided to gloss it to protect it...take the good with the bad i suppose.

I got the scheme off Lexicanum, who in turn got it from Insignium Astartes, then adapted by myself.

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Pick up a can of Testers Dull Coat, it'll server you well. Protects the mini, but doesn't gloss it. Much much more effective than Ardcoat.

As to the paint job itself. It looks very good. There are a few things I'd suggest. First is the rope across his chest. The color just looks off. I'd suggest a devlin mud wash, or if you have it (not likely) chestnut ink. For your blacks, you need a slight highlight at the edges. Even a 50/50 codex gray/black mix thinly run along the edges of each piece would really make them pop out a lot more than just flat black. Your whites defiantly need thinning. Your paint should be the consistency of milk. If you have trouble with surface tension making the paint bubble on your brush, add a small amount of dish soap to your water.

Good luck, and looking forward to more!
 

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Pick up a can of Testers Dull Coat, it'll server you well. Protects the mini, but doesn't gloss it. Much much more effective than Ardcoat.

As to the paint job itself. It looks very good. There are a few things I'd suggest. First is the rope across his chest. The color just looks off. I'd suggest a devlin mud wash, or if you have it (not likely) chestnut ink. For your blacks, you need a slight highlight at the edges. Even a 50/50 codex gray/black mix thinly run along the edges of each piece would really make them pop out a lot more than just flat black. Your whites defiantly need thinning. Your paint should be the consistency of milk. If you have trouble with surface tension making the paint bubble on your brush, add a small amount of dish soap to your water.

Good luck, and looking forward to more!
I do need to take some pics in natural light and put them on, so some colours are washed out, like the black, as it is highlighted in there somewhere.

The white confuses me, as I do have it watered down to a milk like consistency, and considering it's basecoat Astronomican Grey, Skull White, Leviathan Purple, Skull White, Leviathan Purple. The foundation was only a thing layer anyway, and the Skull White is thinned...so I'm not sure what's going on there.

The rope on his chest could be washed out, but i'll look into giving it another wash.

I will definately try the soap idea.

Thanks Pherion.

Thanks for the rep CLT40k

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The white confuses me, as I do have it watered down to a milk like consistency, and considering it's basecoat Astronomican Grey, Skull White, Leviathan Purple, Skull White, Leviathan Purple. The foundation was only a thing layer anyway, and the Skull White is thinned...so I'm not sure what's going on there.
It could be the ardcoat. If you put it on thick, it can distort how the image looks because of the gloss. Take some pics after a dull coat, and I bet it'll look a lot better.
 

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It could be the ardcoat. If you put it on thick, it can distort how the image looks because of the gloss. Take some pics after a dull coat, and I bet it'll look a lot better.
Sure will do Pherion

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Not really a huge update but here we go anyway.

Seeing as I have exams, there is really not much time to put a huge amount of time into my work, much to my dismay. However the goal in my sites is to get my 2k Death Guard list on the road to completion in order to have a force I can actually have a game with (link to that log in my sig). Given I am using cult troops in that army it is a much smaller force than this Red Wolves one, thus it seems logical to me to complete a smaller 2k force before jumping head first into this one.

I have a 2k list written up for the Red Wolves here. Like the Death Guard I am using this 2k list as my goal, to collect and paint the whole list, then expand from there. The post-2k goal is easy enough and it would be to eventually collect the entirety of the Red Wolves 5th Company and it's associated individuals.

On a side note (for those of you that have actually looked at the Index Astartes article) Master of the Forge Eisenhower will be getting a model soon. Given this is not the Red Wolves Eisenhower that is commonly known. Seeing as I am involved in a Deathwatch RP with a few members of our wonderful community, it was suggested by Trevor Drake that we create a model of our beloved Deathwatch character in order to give some physical life. So after acquiring a Deathwatch pad (the Space Marine Command Squad one) and 100 2mmx3mm rare earth magnets I plan on making a customisable Techmarine, it will be a graded process, as I want to be able to model onto Eisenhower (with the aid of the magnets to swap in and out) the various wargear he picks up while on tour. The oppurtunity of being involved in the RP, opened up an avenue in which the already mysterious Techmarine becomes more so, and the events in the RP shift and warp the background of Eisenhower. It is something I am looking forward to delving into, as it is something different to do.

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I actually really like the white shoulder eagle. I like the purple showing through from underneath (+rep for that). In all, a promising log.
Thank you piemaster.

The white with purple was inspired by the Blood Angels use of it but with blue, not wanting to be the same I thought doing it with purple could be interesting and I like the results.

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Righto folks more updates :biggrin:

I finally had some spare time and a sunny day to take some photos of Hedstrom in natural light, rather than the current washed out multi bad light setup ones.

Hopefully the new photos do the paint job more justice :good:






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Outlining the Concept!

Righto folks another update to the Red Wolves. At this point in the project's short life the main activity that will be occuring is hardlined planning. Like indepth planning for the advancements of this project. There will be quite a few example pictures (all 'borrowed' from GW and FW. Thankee kind sirs :drinks:) so bear with me with this.

Many Mks of Power and Artificer armour have been created during the thousands of year Space Marines have walked among the stars. Most commonly within a Chapter a Space Marine will wear a single standard uniform Mk of armour. Among other Chapters it is noted that the uniformity of wearing a single Mk of armour is cast aside for a mismatch of numerous styles of armour, this, more often then not, is due to some historical precedent or tradition. Now before the release of the very nice FW armour Mks, the only armour open to us are the (going of the model's legs) Corvus and the Aquilla armours. GW afforded us some variety (looking at the standard SM Tactical Squad, with options for torsos from the Iron, Heresy, Aquilla and Errant Mks. Various helm Mks were offered to us, though the majority of these are the iconic Aquilla helm.

Now those that have read my Index Astartes: Red Wolves article, will know that I hinted that the Red Wolves were initially a Space Wolves successor Chapter, then went on to flatly refuse it :p. I have been a fan of the new Space Wolves kits since their release, the Red Wolves being the eventual answer to being able to use them in a non-Space Wolves army way. Now as far as fluff goes, these guys aren't Space Wolves, and the issue with making the models straight out of the Space Wolves kits along is as soon as their on the table, it'll be 'Oh, look Red Space Wolves.' This isn't something I want. So I devised a way to use the Space Wolve kits but still maintain the Chapter is Codex Astartes. This being some major kitbashing.

The aim is to integrate Space Wolves and Space Marine kits together to develop my own style of marine. Using the mixed kits, means I am keeping with the wolf motif of the Red Wolves, but also acknowledging them as Codex Astartes.

So we get our lovely Space Wolves Pack kit:


and our standard Space Marine Tactical Squad kit:


Now using a five tier system (I called it that because I got five different armour set ups that I liked that made each model different :eek:k:) I worked out the mixing of these 2 kits. For example:
Marine #1: SM legs, SW torso+arms, SM head+pack
Marine #2: SW legs, SM torso+arms, SW head+pack
Marine #3: SM legs, SM torso+arms, SW head+pack
Marine #4: SW legs, SW torso+arms, SM head+pack
Marine #5: SM legs, SM torso+arms, SM head+pack
This same 5 Marine style is repeated for Marines #6-#10, except #10 will be an all SW model, as #5 is an all SM model. Obviously as the style repeats a different Mk of legs, torso or helm is used so that no one model is the same in any squad. Obviously this leaves me with extensive spare bitz as I am only using 6 standard marine legs and 2 SW legs. So the remaining bitz can be used in kitbashing the next squad. I will be endeavouring to use this system on the entire 5th Company (bar, obviously, models made of metal) so that this will be a very unique army in my eyes.

Other units that will be undergoing kitbashing are my two Devastator squads:


and my two Assault Marine squads:


Now I come to more kitbashing converting concepts. I'm including two Sternguard units into my army. At the moment I only need two squads of five for my 2k list, but will need two squads of 10 for my 2.5k list. This means getting 10 extra Sternguard. I don't really forking out lots of money on blisters in order to get more Sternguard, and end up having doubled up models. So I will purchase the usual Sternguard:


Now I like the Sternguard Sergeant, but I don't fancy having two mirror squads. So after a look I found a suitable replacement Sergeant, and after a planned Bolter to Bolt Pistol hand swap, I think this model will make a suitable Veteran Sergeant:


The Sternguard Sergeant will gain the above model's Bolt Pistol, hopefully, in the swap, and instead be a Tactical Sergeant instead.

Anywho this still leaves me with my 10 spare Sternguard I need. So my next lot of models to go into kitbashing are:

MK IV MAXIMUS ARMOUR


and MK VI CORVUS ARMOUR


Between these kits and the SW bitz, I hope to whip up 10 suitably mixed Sternguard Veterans :)

As for their bolters. I was tempted by the Umbra Ferrox Bolters FW has:


But after some thought, and making a prototype bolter to mirror the GW Sternguard Bolters, I have decided to opt for the more homely (and cheaper) converted bolters.

Well I think I have bored you all to death with my ramblings. I would really love to get some feedback from all you Heretics and lurkers (I know your there :threaten:) on what you think of the kitbashing concept or if you have any ideas.

Grish
 
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