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After their mission in the Sanctus Reach, Grey Knights Justicar Styer and his squad are assigned to locate a lost Grey Knights vessel, the Purifier ship Blade of Purity. Boarding the ship, they find evidence of battle and possible Chaos corruption. Has the impossible happened and Purifiers have fallen to the thrall of the Ruinous Powers? Or is something else stalking the halls of the Blade of Purity?
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Horror stalks the corridors of a seemingly deserted battleship in this new audio from David Annandale. Has the unthinkable happened? A Grey Knight, a Purifier no less, turned against his own and embraced Chaos? Upon the Blade of Purity, it looks as if just that has happened. What else could explain the vessel's mysterious disappearance, and the loss of all its crew?

Did Black Library really go that way huh? I bet the plottwist is that they weren't corrupt.
 

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Listened to it, actually quite good. Here's the plot twist;




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Aye, I'm with Malus. I call BS
 

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Annandales firmly in the 'get in the bin' pile.

After listening to Censure, although his Sallies are dogshit, Kymes Aeonid Thiel was cool as fuck (although the other UM captain fell into the usual trap of mcneils writing that to show how super special snowflake Thiel was, the captain was completely devoid of capability apart from shooting well), so he has some redemption.

This? Even the VA's couldn't make it sound interesting.



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Grey Knights........overwhelmed by Genestealers. Fuck this shit.
Roughly around five-ten Grey Knights overwhelmed by somewhere around sixty-eighty Genestealers. All but one of them them were killed and only that one survivor was mentally controlled via the entire nest combining their psychic might, and only enough to make him move like a jerky marionette. When Seydon fought under their influence he lacked any skill and was actually easy to defeat, Styre notes that his fighting was so basic that the Justicar could have held him off indefinitely without any worries for his own safety, because Seydon was still resisting the influence of the Hive Mind.


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Grey Knights........overwhelmed by Genestealers. Fuck this shit.
Why is this such a stretch?

GKs are designed, conditioned and trained to resist and combat the influence of all things Chaos. It is the purity of their souls more than their psychic might that makes them so good at what they do. So if they come up against an immensely powerful non-chaos, xenos psyker like a patriarch or broodlord, or whatever they're called now, who's to say they couldn't be defeated relatively easily? Never mind that genestealers are hard as nails even without a broodlord.
 

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Defeated aye, but controlled? That's bollocks. If that's the case, why don't Genestealers control Marneus Calgar or someone else. You know, someone whose mental fortitude isn't supposed to be legendary and part of an order which is composed of the most powerful and best train psykers the Imperium can muster. It's a cheap gimmick that makes a mess of the Grey Knights just to push a few more copies of some crappy ass audio drama.

Besides, it's not like it's a whole hive fleet. It's just a nest of Genestealers for fucks sake. You know, the stuff that regular marines face down regularly and none of their dumb asses get possessed. Total bollocks!
 

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Why is this such a stretch?

GKs are designed, conditioned and trained to resist and combat the influence of all things Chaos. It is the purity of their souls more than their psychic might that makes them so good at what they do. So if they come up against an immensely powerful non-chaos, xenos psyker like a patriarch or broodlord, or whatever they're called now, who's to say they couldn't be defeated relatively easily? Never mind that genestealers are hard as nails even without a broodlord.
GK's are the ultimate weapon. They have no physical equals, only the denizens of the Warp should ever pose a threat to them. They're mini-Emperor's literally.
 

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GK's are the ultimate weapon. They have no physical equals, only the denizens of the Warp should ever pose a threat to them. They're mini-Emperor's literally.
Not really. They are the ultimate demon killers, which is down to their mental discipline and fortitude, and psychic abilities, but there's no evidence that they are any bigger or badder than any other chapter in any other respect beyond that.
 

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Not really. They are the ultimate demon killers, which is down to their mental discipline and fortitude, and psychic abilities, but there's no evidence that they are any bigger or badder than any other chapter in any other respect beyond that.
how have you been a poster here for so long and still think that despite the hundreds of threads discussing this very issue?
 

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Yeah I'm with the others, this is just retarded imo. As has been pointed out, if Grey Knights can be overcome by a brood of genestealers, then how have astartes all over the shop not been taken over by them? Yeah they are uber against deamons, but they are still immensely powerful psykers in all other respects as well.

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Even if we assume that is true, for argument's sake, name one other instance when a space marine psyker is possessed by a comparatively small brood of Genestealers (really, in 'nid terms, 60 Genestealers isn't that much). Better yet, when have the Tyranids ever shown that they can control Space Marines by psychic might?
 

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None of them have proved that GKs are in any way physically superior to any other brand of SM.
I agree with KF. There is no actual proof that a Grey Knight is physically stronger or faster or more endurable than a regular Astartes.

Even if we assume that is true, for argument's sake, name one other instance when a space marine psyker is possessed by a comparatively small brood of Genestealers (really, in 'nid terms, 60 Genestealers isn't that much). Better yet, when have the Tyranids ever shown that they can control Space Marines by psychic might?
Not a Space Marine but the Tyranids Codex has shown that the Shadow of the Hive Mind can influence psykers, driving them crazy and forcing them to do things. And previous lore has shown that Genestealers can have a hypnotic influence on people. I don't find it far-fetched that an entire nest concentrating it's strength could dominate one individual that, despite his inevitable badassery against Daemons and the like, has never been trained to fight Tyranids and as such would be unprepared for their own special kind of mind-rape. (As far as I know there is no actual proof that the Grey Knights train to fight against the regular denizens of the galaxy, they are likely told what they are but I highly doubt that the 666th Chapter would waste valuable time practicing against things that they are not really meant to be fighting.)


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