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So I remember hearing somewhere that the heresy series will be about 50 books. We are 30 books done.
Now, the current pace seems to be 2 novels a year. Will the heresy series really last for 10 more years?
Ps I love the heresy so this doesn't bother me.
 

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Never heard the fifty books in the series one before, any idea where that might have come from?

At this point, there are not many known elements of the Age of Darkness left to write (that I can recall anyway.) The Blood Angels and White Scars still need to arrive on Terra, the Death Guard still need to be trapped in the warp and Mortarion forced to make his pact with Nurgle, and Magnus needs to finally commit the remnants of his legion.

Some of those, notably the coming of the Blood Angels and White Scars, are more than likely something that can be handled in a novella or two, while the transformation (and damnation) of the Death Guard is likely to be a book in and of itself.


I personally don't think more than another dozen books, the Siege itself included.
 

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Never heard the fifty books in the series one before, any idea where that might have come from?

At this point, there are not many known elements of the Age of Darkness left to write (that I can recall anyway.) The Blood Angels and White Scars still need to arrive on Terra, the Death Guard still need to be trapped in the warp and Mortarion forced to make his pact with Nurgle, and Magnus needs to finally commit the remnants of his legion.

Some of those, notably the coming of the Blood Angels and White Scars, are more than likely something that can be handled in a novella or two, while the transformation (and damnation) of the Death Guard is likely to be a book in and of itself.


I personally don't think more than another dozen books, the Siege itself included.
I believe that the bl authors are expanding on the old lore. Aaron dembski sbow den hS said that the ultramarines for instance will be getting at least another novel, as the ultramarines won't just be sitting around like the old lore suggests. We also have the war in the webway and I'm guessing some legions that haven't had much spotlight will get a novel
 

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I personally don't think more than another dozen books, the Siege itself included.
I strongly disagree, especially considering books with plots such as The Damnation of Pythos are still being released. Also, if Vengeful Spirit is anything to go by, we may see quite a few other additional books (alongside the known events you already mentioned) included in the Age of Darkness arc - eg. Russ attacking Horus. There is still the Secret War to cover as well. The continuation of the Caliban (Zadkiel, Luther etc) arc. The Lion's justification for not defending Terra (and his secret warp device). The Alpha Legion's continuing schemes post-Alaxxes Nebula. The Knights Errant (Inquisition/Grey Knights) plot. Battle of Paramar (maybe). Lorgar and the Word Bearers post-Shadow Crusade. Perturabo after his fiasco with Fulgrim. Etc.

The Imperium Secundus plot needs also tying up - Sanguinius has just been proclaimed Emperor, the story needs telling how he abandons Guilliman and makes for Terra. I think there is a big-plot bridge to cover before the Siege of Terra gets underway. Most Legion needs 'repositioning' from their 'current' positions in order for the Siege to get underway.

@Loken: No one has ever definitively stated how many books the series will contain. Personally, my guess would be quite a few more than 50. My estimate would be nearer 75, if not more.
 

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No one has ever definitively stated how many books the series will contain. Personally, my guess would be quite a few more than 50. My estimate would be nearer 75.
Oh that's a beautiful number.


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Before Damnation of Pythos, I would've guessed 50... now, it could be anything.

30 novels in and we still haven't gotten a novel focused on the DG, IF, or NL. Novellas... but not full novels to truly flesh out these legions and how they're different.

CoTE's list of events seem pretty good...that's still a LOT of stuff to cover... and that's all before the siege.

I would add the Lion saving Russ from the AL. That needs a novella at least.

Agreed that most Legions need repositioning. Some seem like they're (almost) ready to go. After Scars, I don't think another novel is really needed for the WS. Their arrival on Terra can be a small part of another novel. Of course, an entire novel can be written about the WS's actions on Terra.
 

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Personally I wish they'd hurry the fuck up with it. If we have to put up with more shit like Vengeful Spirit to get to the end, I don't know if I have the will to hang on till the end.

They could probably do it in ten books, but that ain't going to happen. I'm just sick of all the novellas and audios you have to try and keep up with to stay current. I think a dose of Heresy fatigue is setting in.

@Child-of-the-Emperor, don't forget we still have to see the conclusion of the war on Mars as well. Hopefully McNeill will do a similar job as he did with Mechanicum, and make up some of the ground he lost with VS.

Something else just occurred to me writing this. There was always the question of where the SWs were for the battle on Terra. We thought they were held up by the AL, but this is no longer the case. We now know they got to Terra, but left again in an attempt to kill Horus. This is obviously going to be unsuccessful, and Horus makes it to Terra. I'll be interested to see where they now leave Russ while Terra burns.
 

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Too long, with all the novellas limited editions, audios, trade paperback before regular paper back it is getting quite boring, I used to avidly await a new heresy novel, now it seems like a chore to sit down and read one and then the is the level of varied quality! However that aside, I can see the series being dragged well over 50 books
 

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I myself was thinking of start read the HH books from the beginning not to long ago. I thought i was like 5 books. Then I realised it was well over 20 and that it was not finished! Now I've decided to skip the HH series altogether.
 

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I myself was thinking of start read the HH books from the beginning not to long ago. I thought i was like 5 books. Then I realised it was well over 20 and that it was not finished! Now I've decided to skip the HH series altogether.
Mistake! Many of them are truly excellent! Try the initial trilogy at least.
 

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That is the problem. I looked at BL but could not understand in which cronological order they where. Must say that BL site was all other than user friendly. Are there anywhere all the books are put in order?
 

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I will be the first to admit, I am waaaaay beind in the HH series (the last book I read was the First Heretic) but with the release of numerous novellas and audio books, I am utterly lost.

Plus the likes of Battle for the Abyss and Nemesis were so terrible, I don't want to buy a book that I will end up hating (and I really hate those two...)
 

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Okey! So I'll try the first trilogy. Which are? Horus rising, false gods?

I liked the sound of the plot of Flight of the Eisenstein. Is that a freestanding book or part of a trilogy?
 

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Horus Rising, False Gods and Galaxy in Flames are the original trilogy as it were. Flight of the Eisenstein and Fulgrim both neatly follow. The original trilogy is needed for Flight and Fulgrim, and really all the others. The first three are essential reading.
 

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I dont understand why some people want simply more and more, considering how poor some of books in series are. Third of books i can say are good, half maybe average at most and rest just bad.

Feels that people dont care about overall quality, more quantity is what they want. Some reviewers even are quite blind to this.
 

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I myself was thinking of start read the HH books from the beginning not to long ago. I thought i was like 5 books. Then I realised it was well over 20 and that it was not finished! Now I've decided to skip the HH series altogether.
As LazyG said, huge mistake. Some of the best novels BL have put out are in this series. The First Heretic, A Thousand Sons, Know No Fear, Betrayer and Scars, to name but a few. If you start now and read two or three a year, the series might have come near the end by the time you catch up.

I liked the sound of the plot of Flight of the Eisenstein. Is that a freestanding book or part of a trilogy?
In a strange, Douglas Adams sort of way, it's like the fourth part of a trilogy. Definitely one of my favourites in the series. Garro is one of the better characters in the series.

I dont understand why some people want simply more and more, considering how poor some of books in series are. Third of books i can say are good, half maybe average at most and rest just bad.
There is a lot of merit in this. However, we are now so invested in it we want to see it through, however frustrating it proves to be. For every Battle for the Abyss or Fallen Angels there's a Fulgrim or Know No Fear. Some have proved not to live up to their potential, like Fear To Thread, Unremembered Empire or Vengeful Spirit, and some have pleasantly surprised us by going far beyond expectations, like The First Heretic and Scars.
 

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I think the vast majority of the HH are good, only the Dark Angels additions have been a struggle to read for me. On that basis I will continue to read as many as they publish!

That being said I am only sticking to the novels and ignoring the limited editions and novellas etc.
 

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I really hope they also make more graphic novels. I loved macragges honour and would gladly spend the money on more. Being a ultramarines fan, anyone know what future battles they will take part in?
 
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