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...in to developing your army/ armies.

I've seen folks go as far as developing interesting backstories, making up a complete TO&E for each unit, naming vehicles, dreads, elites...everything.

How in-depth do YOU go?
 

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I do everything. I've written something stupid like 200 pages' worth of fluff for one of my armies. Complete Chapter history, heroes, combat doctrines, etc. Naming units in the army list is standard for almost everyone, I think.
 

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The Son of Horus said:
I do everything. I've written something stupid like 200 pages' worth of fluff for one of my armies. Complete Chapter history, heroes, combat doctrines, etc. Naming units in the army list is standard for almost everyone, I think.
Is it?
I'm just wondering at what point does the extra effort become "weird".
Not pointing fingers or anything...I've done most of this myself. Just wondering how far people go, and what is considered "obsessive".

I played a guy who had a T-Shirt made, stickers, names on every dude...for his made up SM Chapter. I thought it was cool and all...then wondered if it was a bit much. Not knowing where that "line" is for others, I posed this question (and this thread).
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I think the line is different for each person. Example:

In my army list, everyone vet sergeant and up has a name, but the only ones I really remember are Vet. Sergeant Deitrich, because of the way I converted him, and General Reaper, the commander of my army. I do write background fluff for my army, but not very much.

Basically what I'm saying is, if this guy has the will and the rescources to make T-Shirts, bumper stickers, and whatever the hell else it is you said he made concerning his army, and actively participate in the hobby, paint, model, game etc. then more power to him. But if you don't want to do that much, don't, but don't spite him for getting really into it.

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I generally name my HQ's and champs in squads. Squad names are named for the Champion/Shas'ui/etc leading them. I don't do anything beyond that however as is it not my bag at all. Kudos to those who do but I would rather paint my models than write about them :D
 

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Being far more gifted with the power of words than the power of the brush, I spend a good quantity of my hobby time writing about my Space Marines. I don't bother writing fluff for my orks, not much to do with them besides come up with a klan name and explain their shootiness. My space marines were Crimson Fists so I would often spend time setting up different dioramas showing battles between my forces and then writing about it. For me, 40k was just an adult evolution of playing with green plastic army men. My girlfriend had a laughing fit when she found me in the bath with them lined up along the edge and bobbing around in the water. I tried to explain I was just using an old toothbrush to remove the paint while I took a soak, but the damage was done.
 

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I've got detailed fluff on all my armies, which is not an easy feat :). Consider that it's all inter-linked, and taking into account the number and variety of the armies I play:

Blood Wind (Khorne)
Pleasure Wind (Slaanesh)
Changing Wind (Tzeentch)
Plague Wind (Can you guess? :p Nurgle)
Primal Guard (Guard, traitors, primitivee)
Danitun Guard (Guard, traitors)
Order of the Raped Virgin (Sisters of Battle)
Hivefleet Buanneth'Ann (Tyranids)
Cha'Mont'Yr Tau (Ummm, Tau?)
Cult of the Emerald Talon (Dark Eldar)
Fists of Flame (Space Marines)
 

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There are people out there who go very in depth to thier armies that its kinda sad. But then again, theres nothing better to do. What bothers me is when people try to "bend" other story lines whith thier fluff.
 

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I name my HQ choices, champions and every now and then
I come up with some story for a special unit.

Being a chaos oriented guy I have quite a bit of options when
it comes down to stories, this is why is try to come up with
reasons for the army leaders to actually be leading this army
or why certain units are in the army.

My current word bearer force for example is joined by a renegade
thousand sons, a former servant of Ahriman who seeks revenge
against his former master. He has joined forces with a relatively
low ranking dark apostle, who using te sorceror's added knowledge
of daemons has launched an assault on a backwater industrial world
in order to claim 1 'ingredient' of what he hopes will be his road to
daemonhood.

Beyond that I just like to make up a small background story for a
batte or series of battle I play every now and then against 2 guys
I know that also like to goof around with this hobby,
 

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I don't really bother with that side of the hobby. I find that the books by black library writers are written bad enough, the stuff I write would no doubt be like having your entire head waxed.
 

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What! Are you nuts!

Obviously you are reading the wrong books. Try Gaunt's Ghosts, Eisenhorn, Storm of Iron, Horus Heresy series. All superb.

Honestly, as an avid reader I can safely say that some of the BL writers write some of the best Sci-Fi there is.
 

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The only book I had a problem with is the sons of Fenris, Great storyline, but the space marines seem too.....human. In all the other books ive read they are very duty driven and have little room for goofing around in the kitchens ect. Opinions?
 

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Well I'm more a writer than a painter, and yes I will admit that I have bent at least one story line to make a army seem a little more legit. I mean in theroy why shouldn't the Radicals have a force of guys like the Grey Knights?
 

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Anphicar said:
What! Are you nuts!

Obviously you are reading the wrong books. Try Gaunt's Ghosts, Eisenhorn, Storm of Iron, Horus Heresy series. All superb.
I guess I just don't like the style. At the risk of sounding stupid, all the big words in them confuse me. Let me explain. It's not that I don't know what the words mean because I do but in pretty much every GW book I have read (Dan Abnet is a bugger for this) they just seem to litter a page with as many big words as they can, I don't know why they do this but I don't like it. They will go on and on about a room, describing every little detail, using words like Kaleidoscopically (I'm guessing that's not how it's spelt but hopefully you know what it's supposed to be) to describe a window with a bit of light shining through it. By the time I have got to the end of a sentence I have forgotten how it started.

I find all these long words get in the way of actually enjoying the book, that is why I don't like Black library books, I don't like fantasy either, it's not just 40k.

Hopefully I got through that post without seeming stoopid or ignorant.
 

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Sorry man not meaning to be mean or anything but I think after what you just said its hard to come off as anything else.
 
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