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The Emperor Protects
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Was just thinking earlier, i wonder how the Dark Angel explain what happened to the Lion and the Rock? I imagine Russ and others would have been rather curious as to how Caliban was destroyed and the Lion lost. We know the Dark Angels don't tell anyone about the Fallen or what happened. Looking for some serious answers but feel free to add more entertaining ones.

I've got an image of Russ, Guilliman and any other currently survivng primarchs turning up at the remains of the rock

Russ and co. - wtf happened here? wheres the lion?!
Dark Angel 1 looking at whats left of Caliban - fuck me! when the fuck did that happen? Did you see that happen
Dark Angel 2 -me? fuck no, you?
Dark Angel 3 -no way, shit, guess um it must have exploded or something........
Russ and co. - exploded........?
Dark Angel 1,2,3 - .........yes, because of.........Horus!
Russ and co. - Oh yes horus of course, yes that could make sense. um sorry for your loss
Dark Angel 1 - Thank you brothers, this is a hard time...
(dark angels in the background taking luther inside to his cell)
Russ and co. - Hey is that luther?
Dark Angel 2 - Who? luther? noooooo.
Russ and co. - There! right there shackled up and mumbling
Dark Angel 3 - Naaaaah that's um......
Dark Angel 2 - Bob!
Russ and co. - Bob?......
Dark Angel 1 - Yeaaaaah, you know bob! always joking about, no doubt pulled a prank on someone again!
Russ and co. Random marine - Oh the guy who replaced our Librarians staff with a magic wand??
Dark Angel 1 - .........yes!
Russ and co. - Hmmmm well ok then, good luck with the cleaning, and if Jonson does turn up tell him to return my calls
 

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I dont think it would be a massive issue to feed the Inquisition (and other interested parties) some suitable lies.
 

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Grand Lord Munchkin
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Do the wolves really give a shit? I really don't think they care.
 

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I believe that the Wolves had a fairly strong resentment of the Dark Angels. Leman Russ might have cared simply because it meant he would never get to kill the Lion.
 

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He was never going to kill Jonson. He just hated him. They were good friends before the fight, after I don't think hw fully let it slide.
 

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Grand Lord Munchkin
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After the fight, I don't believe that they were particulerly friendly at all.
 

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On the contrary i distinctly remember reading that they infact became very good friends and developed a large amount of respect for each other. In the older fluff they were arrving to break the seige of terra together. And some believed Russ might have left to go find his good friend the Lion
 

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Grand Lord Munchkin
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Then why would their legions still so such hate towards eachother? To me, if they had made up their legions wouldn't show the animosity that they share.
 

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I'll try and find the exact fluff sources, or with any luck someone else will find them aswell. But im absoloutely certain they were.
 

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Codex Space Wolves 5th Ed. Page 91

To paraphrase:

The Wolf and the Lion became great friends.

After their 'passing' the legions grew further apart.
 

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Hm, odd. I don't see why the legions would develop that kind of rancor with they primarchs being so close.
 

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LOL. Thats a good question. "Uhhhh.... Dunno."
I'm sure there many reasons why a planet could suffer. If I was whoever took over the chapter after the Lion went into the Rock I would have blaimed it on the Night Lords, along with my fence watching.
 

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Yeah they were close, in A Thousand Sons when Lorgar jumps in between Russ and Magnus he says Russ and the Lion re swore their oaths of brotherhood at some stage after the brawl.

I think they put callibans destruction and the lions disappearance down to the callibanites siding with horus or rebelling in general, they conveniently left out the part about actual DA astartes rebelling.
 

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Again to quote the Wolves codex. pg.21
"Some say he disappeared in the Eye of Terror whilst searching for his old friend and rival, the Primarch Lion El'Jonson"
 

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Grand Lord Munchkin
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Then again rumours say he was hunting for a cure to save his father.
 

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One of the big reasons that the two chapters may have grown apart is because of their very nature after the Heresy. The wolves are fairly straightforward while the angels became those who skulk about in lies and the dark. Its not hard for the two groups to stop seeing eye to eye, and without their leaders to hold them together by frail bonds its no surprise that they drifted.

Plus, the stories of their fight and the rivalry not being friendly are likely things more outspoken and exaggerated than them being friends and all buddy buddy. Ten thousand years of exaggeration and drifting have that effect, and Bjorn isn't exactly setting the record straight by keeping quite.
 

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If that one is true, we lost a primarch because the dark angels are pussies. Jk I realize they had no other choice.
 
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