[Honsu The Half-Breed]

As the name might suggest from reading Storm Of Iron I was hooked upon Iron Warriors. I have only just got into the hobby literally a few weeks ago and as such don't really understand the rules of the game but I hope to get into a gaming group and learn (wondering if there are any in and around Leeds Other than the GW in town?) Also any help on rules would be much appreciated, I have bought a Chaos marine codex but I don't understand the numbers under the WS BS S T W I A LD SV I think that they relate to the dice but i'm not 100% sure I would go to GW but it's a bit of a trek down there and work is demanding at the moment plus I need to get more things for my army to make enough points to play a game.

Thank You in advance for any help and replies,
Honsu

 

[piemaster]

Hey Honsu. Leeds eh? What's it like dodging all of those Rhinos all the time? Welcome to Heresy Online.

Chaos is a good start and the codex is cool but doesn't explain the stat line. The codex isn't a stand alone book, what you need is the rulebook. The big book contains background material and is really nice to have. You can get this here

If you don't want to fork out that much cash you could always buy the smaller rulebook. It has the rules only and doesn't have anything else - stories, artwork and the like. You can only get this off ebay. You'll be wantin' the one with the red cover as anything else contains older rules.

You could also get the Assault on Black Reach which contains space marines, orks, dice and the smaller rulebook among other things. If you reckon you're going all the way with the hobby (a good idea in my opinion) and can afford it I'd say to get the larger rulebook. I can't afford it yet but as soon as I can, I'm buying this baby. Its just a really nice book to hold. The A5 book is good for quick reference. I got one for around £12.

Hope this is helpful to you and look forward to seeing you over in modelling and painting sometime.

 

[Chumbalaya]

Storm of Iron is one of my favorite BL books. <3

All your questions will be answered by the main rulebook. If you don't feel like shelling out for the big tome, you can pick up the pocket rulebook on eBay, other barter sites, or Assault on Black Reach (which comes with Marines you can Chaosify and Orks you can trade, sell or Chaosify into something like Lesser Daemons).

 

[Blackhiker]

Welcome to the heresy. As everyone has said. once you get the main book that should answer most of your questions. Any questions you have after reading through that can usually be answered while playing a game.

 

[Honsu The Half-Breed]

Thanks for the advice guys. @ Piemaster it's not too difficult to dodge the rhino's at all due to the fact that I live across the road from them, they are caged up on the field most of the time so we can live without fear!

Edit:I have placed an order for the rulebook so should be asap (the big one) what can you recommend as a must do when starting a chaos marine army as my cousin used to play it and he has given me around 250 points worth of iron warriors that he no longer wants but after reading the Storm Of Iron fell in love with and snapped them up.

After reading the codex there doesn't seem to be much detail as to what the IW can and can't have in their army as I naively thought like space marines that chaos might have different codex's for the more popular chaos chapter's. I thought they might get special siege tanks or siege weapons and specialized troops or something but just seems to be the bog-standard chaos army.

 

[piemaster]

The only thing I know about Leeds is the rugby team's mascot/name!

What you want for a good source of iron warrior inspiration is the 2002 chaos space marine codex. It has information on about 8 chaos space marine legions and cool rules for iron warriors. The problem is that it is not the current codex. Imagine iTunes - everyone is more or less running version 9. In 40k we are in the 5th incarnation (the codex you have and the rulebook is the newest edition) and the 2002 CSM codex is from 4th.

It depends on what you want. I prefer the 4th edition codexes and if you can find friends to play you could even play the 1st edition from the 1980s. My point is that most people will play 5th and that's what they run in GW stores (iTunes doesn't sell earlier versions) but older codexes are an excellent source of information and background reading material. I went and bought as many older books as I could when I had a bit of money behind me.

This is what the older codex looks like. You should be ok to get a copy on the cheap.

 

[Blackhiker]

While there are no longer restrictions for what you can and cannot have in a csm army you can look up the fluff for the iron warriors and see what that says for what they usually use.

 

[Chumbalaya]

There used to be rules for Iron Warriors armies, but GW took all the fluff and fun bits out of the most recent Chaos Codex, leaving it a bland and flavorless ball of meh.

Honestly, if you want to best reflect the Iron Warriors on the table top, the Space Marine Codex would be a better fit. You get siege engines like Thunderfire Cannons, A techmarine-like HQ sporting a servo-arm (complete with rules for entrenching your units) as well as special characters that can alter your army to reflect how you want it to play. If you want to be more Chaotic, the Space Wolf book has a ton of options to make characterful and powerful leaders and characters with funky units like Thunderwolves.

If you want a flavorful and fun Chaos army, the CSM Codex is about the last thing you'd want to use.

 

[Honsu The Half-Breed]

Thanks once again but would the above suggestions be able to be used in tournaments and games at my local store (particularly thinking about using the older codex's) I have been reading fluff and other people's posts and they seem to mention imperial guard tanks (probably spell fail but... basalisks amongst other things is the one that keeps cropping up.)
can I field imperial guard units tank wise if I play IW?


Edit: I was browsing the gw site and couldn't find an e-mail address to contact them can anyone supply me with one please much appreciated.

 

[Chumbalaya]

You can't use IG tanks in any SM army, it's Apoc or house rules only I'm afraid.

Tournies should be fine with using another Codex for IW, so long as everything is WYSIWYG and you don't mix rules between Codices.