given that the deathwatch aren't a chapter, and are just marines seconded to the OX, i dont think they can be included. also, their numbers would be too few.
why not? I know a fair few ppl who play with them, that seems like verification to me. Plus if you go on that fluff basis then rule out Grey Knights aswell as most ppl, even SM's, are unaware of thier existance. They are the Chamber Militant of a most seceret organisation.uberschveinen said:They don't count, given that their existence can't even be verified. Besides, they don't fulfill the criterion required of a hard army.
torealis said:ohh sory. still the Grey Knights are a Chamber Militant and they have been classed as a chapter, havent they?Ordo Xeno Commander said: