[Coder59]

After reading 'The Chapter's Due' an odd thought came to me.

It seems that the long standing doubt about whether Mon-Keigh and Eldar can breed has been answered.

But what does Slaanesh think of this? Can he lay claim to the soul of an Eldar/Human hybrid?

 

[ckcrawford]

I don't see why not, I believe slaanesh takes souls from both eldar and humans. I wonder why they'd want to breed though. Unless of course their are some physical qualities humans have that eldar don't have that could be useful

 

[K3k3000]

I believe, and I could be wrong, that a vanilla eldar is superior to a vanilla human in almost every way concievable. The only thing humans have over eldar is a superior reproductive system.

 

[locustgate]

I believe, and I could be wrong, that a vanilla eldar is superior to a vanilla human in almost every way concievable. The only thing humans have over eldar is a superior reproductive system.

Maybe the eldar want's to repopulate the eldar race even if it would be an unholy xeno abomination that MUST BURN!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Eremite]

I haven't read The Chapter's Due - does it imply or state outright that hybrids are possible? I do hope not.

In the earliest fluff, back when marines were mind-scrubbed convicts, hybrids existed, but they were shoved under the rug afterwards. They don't make sense from a cultural perspective - the eldar see human as animals or vermin, the Imperium see aliens as monsters - and a biological one as the eldar reproductive system is postulated to work in stages. Far, far more importantly, their genetic structure has a triple-helix (which in reality is less stable than a double) and around 20 bases rather than our human 4.

It's impossible for a hybird to occur based on this fact, but frankly GW has never really cared for genetics, or they'd have made some serious changes to the 'nids in Xenology. A transgenic could be artificially created, however - reverse-transcribed eldar genes put into human embryos or vice versa. This wouldn't be a true hybrid, though, it would be a human with eldar genes or an eldar with human genes.

(I'm a Biologist specialising in genetics - I try not to let real science interfere with sci-fi, but damnit sometimes you just can't help yourself...)

 

[ckcrawford]

I believe, and I could be wrong, that a vanilla eldar is superior to a vanilla human in almost every way concievable. The only thing humans have over eldar is a superior reproductive system.

Pretty much, that would be it. lol. Unless some dark eldar female was trying to get one the physical qualities of a genetically enhanced human being, perhaps a space marine. More than likely, the pirate queen from The Chapter's Duewas probably result of either a sick eldar or human raping the other after they pillaged and raped a village.

 

[ckcrawford]

I haven't read The Chapter's Due - They don't make sense from a cultural perspective - the eldar see human as animals or vermin, the Imperium see aliens as monsters - and a biological one as the eldar reproductive system is postulated to work in stages.

Your of course considering all eldar and human think this way. Dark Eldar themselves are sick little bastards. I couldn't even start to imagine what they do to keep themselves entertained. They go to the extreme to pervert themselves, and because of this they forget any principle or most principles that they should. Perhaps seeing humans as vermin. And if your talking about a male looking at a hot female eldar, only the most devoted to the teachings of the xeno hating inquisition wouldn't think about even "tapping" that. Theres lots of sick humans in this world who rape animals, and even children, I can't imagine the amount of them in the 40k world. lol

 

[Brother Subtle]

Eldar looks at human... 2 arms, 2 legs, u'll do. *cue porno music...

 

[ckcrawford]

Eldar looks at human... 2 arms, 2 legs, u'll do. *cue porno music...

lol, either a dark eldar warrior or a tough Imperial guard. They've probably been in ships too long and were like, fuck it, I need to get my groove on.

 

[chromedog]

Biology?
The BL authors aren't too good with chemistry either.

Methyl Isocyanate and phosgene tend to explode when mixed with Hydrogen Chloride rather spectacularly. It does not merely create a poisonous gas cloud.

(This is from Mechanicus, one of the better HH novels.)

 

[The Boz]

I wonder why they'd want to breed though. Unless of course their are some physical qualities humans have that eldar don't have that could be useful

Because they love each other, and love conquers all!

Biology?
The BL authors aren't too good with chemistry either.

Methyl Isocyanate and phosgene tend to explode when mixed with Hydrogen Chloride rather spectacularly. It does not merely create a poisonous gas cloud.

(This is from Mechanicus, one of the better HH novels.)

Names change, alternate parallel universe, etc.

 

[locustgate]

Because they love each other, and love conquers all!

Names change, alternate parallel universe, etc.

So does a flamer. But it would be intresting to have half breeds.

 

[Eremite]

Well, if the fluff confirms it, the fluff confirms it. I can kvetch on the internet all I like and it won't change nothin'.

In reality, hybrids only occur with very closely related species - humans and chimps are a no-go - and are riddled with health issues.

While a hybrid could be an interesting character (perhaps playing off their inherited weaknesses as well as strengths, their sense of not belonging and hiding what they are from damn near everyone they meet), I've seen a fair few in fanfic over the the years and they almost all seem to be just appealing to the author's love of elves and half-elves in generic fantasy.

While I suppose some nasty individuals on both sides might go for that thing, according to their own fluff (with eldar the reproductive system being progressive) it would need to occur on multiple occasions. And the mother would either be willing or unable to stop the monster-child coming to term. Amazingly, love would seem a more likely origin for such a creature.

 

[ckcrawford]

Because they love each other, and love conquers all!

oh man... I think I'm gonna get sick.... uke:

 

[Smokes]

Biology?
The BL authors aren't too good with chemistry either.

Methyl Isocyanate and phosgene tend to explode when mixed with Hydrogen Chloride rather spectacularly. It does not merely create a poisonous gas cloud.

(This is from Mechanicus, one of the better HH novels.)

Wait so does this mean I can still get it on with those sexy Eldar ladies? My form of diplomacy is much more effective and fun.

 

[ChaosRedCorsairLord]

Biology?
The BL authors aren't too good with chemistry either.

Methyl Isocyanate and phosgene tend to explode when mixed with Hydrogen Chloride rather spectacularly. It does not merely create a poisonous gas cloud.

(This is from Mechanicus, one of the better HH novels.)

Yeah, we've already discussed (to death) how an Eldar-Human hybrid is not possible in another thread. I wasn't aware the fluff actually stated it had occurred, I thought it only implied it.

 

[Warlock in Training]

This is 40K people. There is no End all be All answere. If Chapters Due says it is possible then it is possible. In the future where Tech allows for gene splicing, cloning, and a touch of "Magic", really does not seem farfetch.

 

[Grimskul25]

Because they love each other, and love conquers all!

Names change, alternate parallel universe, etc.

Oh god! The love burns! Bring back the grimdarkness! Bring back the grimdarkness! Before another Chaos God is born and Hello Kitty Daemons arise and start giving comfort circle hugs to everyone! :laugh:

 

[The Boz]

Oh god! The love burns! Bring back the grimdarkness! Bring back the grimdarkness! Before another Chaos God is born and Hello Kitty Daemons arise and start giving comfort circle hugs to everyone! :laugh:

Too late.
http://craphound.com/images/HelloKittyDreadnought_600we.jpg

 

[ChaosRedCorsairLord]

Too late.
http://craphound.com/images/HelloKittyDreadnought_600we.jpg

Fear the hello-kittynought.