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My Ultramarines, painted as per the Warhammer TV video tutorial done by Duncan Rhodes. Very pleased with how they came out; the Centurions still have a fair amount of detail to do, but the other stuff is finished.





















 

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Yes, the braid in particular kinda bugs me but I'm still finding a wash I like with white - probably going to be blue, and just apply a couple of coats into the recesses, or a mix of blue and black.
 

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Wow dude, those Centurions and Tactical marines are so crisp! I remember your Deathwing were painted well, but you have definitely stepped up your game. Good on ya! :drinks:

I don't know if it's just the Finecast model, but Sicarius looks pretty rough by comparison. He's a busier model for sure but I would go back and do my damnedest to get those lines on the banner a bit more solid before applying any wash to it (which will totally help give definition to the edges too). As for the colour of wash, do you have some spare banner bits from Marine boxes you've bought that you could test colours on? I have a terrible habit of trying new things on Characters and then the next model I paint that technique on is where I execute it way better.
 

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Wow dude, those Centurions and Tactical marines are so crisp! I remember your Deathwing were painted well, but you have definitely stepped up your game. Good on ya! :drinks:

I don't know if it's just the Finecast model, but Sicarius looks pretty rough by comparison. He's a busier model for sure but I would go back and do my damnedest to get those lines on the banner a bit more solid before applying any wash to it (which will totally help give definition to the edges too). As for the colour of wash, do you have some spare banner bits from Marine boxes you've bought that you could test colours on? I have a terrible habit of trying new things on Characters and then the next model I paint that technique on is where I execute it way better.
It's more than white absolutely fuckin' kills me 90% of the time, but yes; he looks pretty good from far away, but he's not any better painted than any of the other guys really. Still working on the way to get smooth, solid white; I either get the coats too thick and the texture gets horrible (what happened to Sicarius), or I get them too thin and it takes a quadrillion coats which ends up making it too thick anyway.
 

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White is exceptionally finicky to deal with. I've seen a lot of GW tutorials that advise starting grey/blue and working up to white as a final highlight, though I've often just used white followed by black (for armour) or brown (for cloth) washes, and then a bit of detail picking out with white after (sometimes edges, sometimes a drybrush). Getting that initial layer can be borderline infuriating for the reasons you've stated, I often find a 2:1 paint to water ratio gets me somewhere between your problems. Some areas always seem to keep the paint better so as I go on with the coats they become a bit more strategic in where the most paint gets applied, but I've often gotten pretty solid results. Here's a Dreadnought I did up with that mix, pre-washes:

 

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That's a great looking white, but I think it could do with more definition which usually a wash would do but washing white always ends up making it look mucky, in my opinion. I had the same problem when doing the backs of Ravenwing bikes - I could get a good white, or definition, but never both. Something I certainly need to work on. White cloth is even more of a pain than white armour - most of my Sternguard came out looking okay as you can use a wash in the opposite way to an edge highlight to get good definition, but such sharp highlights don't work on soft surfaces.
 

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Washing it definitely can make it look pretty murky. This is the final product here, as you can see much depth was added and I could have been a lot cleaner with my white application but I was going for a darker feel for the model. Of course I have been meaning to go back and do highlights on the armour...but I've been meaning to paint a lot of red and haven't had the desire.



If I really wanted to take my time, I would have made my own black wash for a bit of a darker one-coat and traced thin lines only in the crevasses and then gone over the edges again in white to touch up where my shaky friggin' hands failed me :laugh:
 
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