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Hey up thought i'd post up my propesed list for this years GT Finals.

Originally this was gonna be Deathwing, and i had gotten all the models for it. But in the current light of how badly the DW list is gonna get nerfed i the new dex i have moved towards a SM dex based list that uses as much of what i have obught as possible (i did spend £120 on FW stuff for christs sake!).

So i've come up with this list, fluff wise its based around a Chapters of marines (The Swords of Retribution) who have been seconded by an Ordo Xeno's Inq for various shady reasons/missions. Also i can potentially write in some fluff hinting at the fact that this chapter - which specialises in ship to ship action (hence all the termies) is indirectly funded, supported, directed, shaped, even created by a wing of the Ordo Xenos for thier own purposes (much like the red scorp fluff in IA4).

So thats the basic outline and fluff, heres the list:

UPDATED 29/01/07

Inq/Epistolary: Term Armour, Fury [143]
+ 4 Terminators: 2 A-Cannons [200]

5 Terminators: 2 A-Cannons [240]

5 Terminators: 2 A-Cannons [240]

5 Terminators: 2 CML, Tank Hunter [265]

6 Scouts: ML [88]

6 Scouts: ML [88]

Dread: Smoke and EA [113]

Dread: Smoke and EA [113]



Like i said the terms will be the swords of retribution (DA spin off to explain away the FW DA shoulder pads they all sport), the dread been the same.
The Libby is gonna be converted into a Inq in term armour using FW commander cullen as the basis.
The scouts will be Ordo Xeno's storm troopers modeled out of SM scounts and other bits to look mean.
 

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i had a similar[near identical] idea not long back and last sunday played a test game with 1000 point version of this list. Things didn't go too well however and they lost 2 out of 3 games by rolling lots of 1's for saves and it was against some reasonabley un-gayed up, armies. I'd think very carefully before taking it to the GT as i think eldar will pawn it and with the new eldar codex out..... may give a couple of people some surprises but i have my doubts
 

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yeah but i'm not doing it to win any games :lol:

Its gonna all try to DS in in 90% of games, thats boned me from the start. Its lack of mobility and AT has fucked me to.

But i don't reallly care - this is gonna end up been one sweet modeling project.
 

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ill sell my left testicle for the army ....any takers?
 

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I`ve seen better, no really in 1500pts 25 terminators Lysander and a chaplain, and 10 space marines, done by a staff member, and a shed load of assault cannons
 

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yeah but i don't want lysander, it aint fists as you noticed and i want at least one dread. My criteria is to use as much of the deathwing i have bought (5 termi squads each with dual hvy weapons sprues and 2 FW ven dreads) and create something esle as there aint much point doing deathwing. I could just do Lysanderwing but why - i don't like the IF colour scheme and its what faaaarrrrr too many ppl have done already. This was never meant to win me the toruney, in fact wooden spoon would be fucking hilarious. It is though meant to get me nominated at least for Best Army. Sorry 25 yellow termies won't, 20 deathwatch termies with some goregeuosly converted scouts, inq and dread might just.

Also i've actually change the fluff a bit now (have spent more money at FW - what is wrong with me?) and it is going to be a full on Deatwatch Terminator attack force. So all the termies will be modeled as deathwatch with different chapter specific shoulder pads. The scouts remain as ordo xenos stromtroopers, and the libby is still an inq.

Which tbh is cool as it gives me the scope to then maybe so a SM pod based force that could be the regular Deathwatch marine part.
Ohhh dear i'm onto a 4k list already!!!

I'm now at the point where i'am really happy with it (idea wise).
 

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I've 15 Imperial Fists Terminators and no Lysander, I imagine that's not quite the norm. Someday I'll get him. :roll:
 

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i like the idea and fluff and everything about the army but i've never been able to roll 2+ armour save just cause of the hole anything but a 1

when you do the scouts could you put some pics up??
 

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ST - yeah don't worry with my missus's new digi camera - same one i took all the pics at heat 3 with. I'll be sure to put up some pics (though gotta upgrade that flikr account or get something that allows more than 12 photo's a month).

Jig - I've got one dread, couldn't afford another without losing out on termies :( THough my 1800pt list for the Euro Team championships (see TWF) will have both dreads and an extra scout squad.

Lysanders a good trick but suffers like all non-old-DA-Dwing armies in that they can and will run plus you will lack on any fast CC power (one of the all termie armies weakness's tbh). Having a tooled up epistolary can help you in CC abit when needed., whereas Lysander and his hammer is just too slow.
 

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http://warhammer.org.uk/PhP/viewtopic.php?t=21655

the uk will be sneding a team of 8 (all the countries can have a max - and therefore - 8 in thier team).

The UK team captain/organiser is Anethema (Dakkadave from Flame On) and he is currently ironing out the various criteria and tourne specific rules with the other national capts.

No team has been decided yet, the general concenous (this has been bounced of flame on (obvuously) and spikey at lot) is to organise a qualification tourney where those who wish to try and be part of the team face off.

Now since this in Poland its been strongly urged that obviously only those who can afford to do it commit (there will be deadlines to buying flights etc) and if you pull out/miss a deadline (after qualifying) you loose your place. Harsh but fair

The main resitriction is that there are only 2 SM, 2 CSM and 1 of each other dex allowed per team (so 8 armies but resitriced by that). i.e Dave plays eldar and been capt automatically gets a place so no other eldar army can be taken.

When the tourney happens (soon i hope) ppl will play with the army they woul dplan to take to the championship (sorry eldar players with dave been capt thats life - he didn't come up with the army/team restrictions). The top 8 will get places in the team, though this is seeded also on armies.

So if the top 10 where:

1. SM
2. CSM
3. Tau
4. Necron
5. Tau
6. CSM
7. Nid
8. Nid
9. SM
10. IG

Then postions 1,2,3,4,6,7,9 & 10 would go through as 5 & 8 are not the Best placed of thier race to gain the availbile slot.

Do you get it?

As i said the tourney aint organised yet though if you are geniunly intrested let either Anathema (see TWF) or me know and when the event qualifiaction tounrey is finalised you'll get the info.

Be warned though ther is A LOT of interest in this so be prepared on missing out on a final place - lets face it loads of ppl want to rep thier country.

Also team Uk is planning fancy dress costumes for the event (imagine flat caps, pipes, moustaches, tweed jackets, union jack shorts, sandels and deck chairs!!!!).
 

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I'm not convinced you can get 25 terminators, 10 marines, lysander and a chaplain in 1500 points.

Why not Pod with 'em?

Damn date on the tournament stops me entering this year, but next year I'll deffo be up for it.
 

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i thought about pods - i could even maybe pod the scouts....

ideally i would like to do a list with a nice blend of marines, scouts and termies all in pods. But tbh i doubt i'm gonna have time to do this list, let alone buy, paint, convert and scratch build a differnet one.

maybe for next years heat when i will need something a bit more competitive to qualify (plus taking DWatch would be cool against the rest of flame on doing nidzilla - can't be bothered myself right now).
 

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Its looks good actually, a competative list in disguise. i recon you will struggle vs eldar but with so many 2+ save you can overwhelm opps that dont have enough ap2 weapons. Necrons would be pretty screwed for starters, plus alot of standard guard lists. ds-ing vs tau will make it difficult for them to do enough damage to you.
 

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ARISE ARISE ARISE!!!!

Ok little bit of threadromancy here but i have painted one of my terminators now!!! Go me!

Thought i'd link up the pics for ppls viewing pleasure:








Please excuse the usual fuzzy pics but i am shit when it comes to photo's. But apart from that what do you all think? If evevything is to this level you recon i stand a chance at getting a nomination?
 

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Nice list, I have been toying with a terminator heavy list myself, I just never got around to it. I have a couple of nicely painted terminator squads the dread and the scouts.

If you're happy don't change it. It's the final so unless your are gunning for the win, it does not really matter where you finish.

I would not worry to much about eldar, if you get some good deep strike rolls you could cause any eldar army some real problems.

If you are looking for options - Tank hunter works a treat making assault cannons awesome and also drop poding terminators is great, I know it's 30 points but It means you can drop right into the middle of the enemy without fear of hitting them and dying, extra storm bolter plus some height 3 cover.

Good luck with it.
 
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