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Could just be a reboxing of LR kit with GK on it. Pushing for the new art boxes that have the mainly dark background.
 

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I think personally the best release schedule was the start of 6th when it was a 3 month cycle including a 40k and fantasy book, now it just all seems to merge into each other
You will have to forgive me as I am about to rant to a lot of people and not just you. Your post was simply the easiest to start from. So, this is not all pointed at you as an FYI.

Why is anyone whining about fast releases? Everyone wants new stuff, especially when they have none. Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and step out of your own selfish bubble and realize that old army books suck. Using an old army book because you have no choice, also sucks. But we all love the game, so we all deal with the crappy books until a new one comes out. Ignoring the 7th edition scenario, a fluke at best, why should anyone have to wait 4.5 years (unless my count is wrong there are 18 codexes, at 3 months a book that is 4.5 years before the unlucky guy gets his codex). Meanwhile, everyone else is enjoying new models, new rules, and kicking his teeth in because his choices are; be made fun of for playing a broken codex, or get made fun of for selling his soul to play one of the nice new codexes. Why as a business, and as a fellow player, would you wish that upon someone!?? I am a Dark Angels/Space Wolf player, and before the new codex came out I wasn't able to play my wolves a lot because they were just not as effective as my Dark Angels (contrary to popular belief DA are not a lesser codex, they are just played wrong by a majority of people).

If I had my way, Day 1 I could go get a new rulebook and 3 codexes, then buy new models as I can afford them. That way the 3 month release schedule could make sense, with the new content being data slates, formations, supplements, etc... Everyone has a level playing field day 1, then fluff and just plain awesome stuff came out after that. Too much all at once? Really? How many of you play EVERY SINGLE ARMY GW OFFERS? I can guarantee only like 2 of us, at best. Since you don't have to worry about new rules for anyone except what you are playing the fast release doesn't actually affect you, but makes others happy. I can't wait for my friend to get his BA codex because I empathize with him paying way too much for a Librarian.

"But what about when I fight armies I don't play? If we are getting all this new stuff so fast how can I keep up with them?" You won't have to, because they have no idea what they are doing yet, it's so new! Whenever I fight a new army I check out tactics articles about them. Then, I at least have an idea of what I am looking at and plan accordingly. "What, what? Tactics are for playing that army not fighting them." Not always. By utilizing tools you already have you can better know what is out there without spending the time analyzing everything about them first. Let someone else do that, then use their conclusions. There is no reason we should have to wait for the core rules of our faction to be released, and there is no reason you as players should ask for it either.

And to the guy whining about Imperium releases: do me a favor and cram it. Of those 18 codexes 10 are Imperium. There is eventually going to be two in a row, it is a mathematical certainty. As a Dark Angel player my book is not the same as Space Wolves, and the two are not interchangeable. But making the claim that all Imperium players are the same is rude and short sided. When they release a stream of crap from the same book over two months you can complain. Until then, just keep in mind that the Space Wolves release did not make the Grey knights players happy, and the Grey Knights release does nothing for Blood Angels players.
 

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Don't know why they would do. A reboxing of ALL of the kits but this makes more sense




And Wow 22 comments already I only put the thread up yesterday
Yes you did, my bad.
There was some additional info for black library release on the one I posted.

At least we have a speculative date for this months madness to end.
 

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Maybe the Land Raider will have Heavy Incinerators on top and twin or quad linked (or just a heavier version) of PsyCannons on the side.

What I am wondering is as they seem to want to put a £50-100 knight / stompa model in every army now what will the Grey Knight one be.
 

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http://southmsgamers.blogspot.ca/2014/08/40k-incoming-upcoming-grey-knights.html?m=1
UPCOMING RELEASES:
GREY KNIGHTS CODEX & UNITS,

SPACE WOLVES and BLACK LIBRARY


All Pre-Orders August 16th
Release Date August 23rd

Sanctus Reach
Sanctus Reach: Hour of the Wolf $49.50 Hardback

Space Wolves
Warriors of the Fang $170 Plastic box
Space Wolves Skyclaws $37 Plastic box
Space Wolves Long Fangs $37 Plastic box

Grey Knights
Codex: Grey Knights $49.50 Hardback
Codex: Grey Knights (limited edition) $110 Hardback Book (web only)
Datacards: Grey Knights $8 Cards
Grey Knights Purifier Squad $33 Plastic box
Grey Knights Strike Squad $60 Plastic box
Grey Knights Paladin Squad $50 Plastic box
Grey Knights Nemesis Dreadknight $53.75 Plastic box
Grey Knights Land Raider $74.25 Plastic box
Grey Knights Venerable Dreadnought $46.30 Plastic box
Grey Knights Stormraven Gunship $82.50 Plastic box

Black Library
Horus Heresy: Horus Rising $9.99 Novel
Grey Knights Omnibus $17.50 Novel
Sanctus Reach: Blood on the Mountain $24 Novel
Sanctus Reach: Volume 2 $90 other book (web only)

Grey Knights Datacards
Grey Knights will be reboxed as Purifiers
GK terminators reboxed as Palidins
Specific GREY KNIGHTS LAND RAIDER
Specific GREY KNIGHTS VENERABLE DREADNOUGHT
Specific GREY KNIGHTS STORMRAVEN GUNSHIP

This is all right from the order form. Everything will be out at the same time AUGUST 23.
(Pre-order AUGUST 16)
this seems to buck the trend of late, this seems like an awful lot of product to pump out in one week? plus if genuine skyclaws and long fangs would be new? the specific grey knight kit could just be normal kits with additional sprues?? like i say seems like alot of "new" for one week? why not release the space wolf stuff this week and hold on and do the grey knight stuff the following week?



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It doesn't look like there's enough GK stuff to last a few weeks.

Also, isn't there rumours that the GKs are getting tied in with some santus reach stuff? There was chitter about a mini demon release soon too... so that might explain why they quickly updated GKs?
 

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It doesn't look like there's enough GK stuff to last a few weeks.

Also, isn't there rumours that the GKs are getting tied in with some santus reach stuff? There was chitter about a mini demon release soon too... so that might explain why they quickly updated GKs?
I am sure some data slates or a mini dex... because it more important to rush this to get out BA and DE before christmas.
 

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Damn! That cover lookes ace!
Man, I haven't even gotten all the SpaceWolves stuff that I want. And I was actually planning on eating quite regularly for the rest of the month >_<
Damn it GW, my wallet is crying...
 

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this thread actually makes me a little angry...see this is the reason we cant have a social media connection with GW...waa waa this waa waa that..GW cant win...people in this hobby is the hobbies worst enemy!

people in the world should be grateful for what the have and be even more grateful they get anything at all!
 

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this thread actually makes me a little angry...see this is the reason we cant have a social media connection with GW...waa waa this waa waa that..GW cant win...people in this hobby is the hobbies worst enemy!

people in the world should be grateful for what the have and be even more grateful they get anything at all!
Grateful? What that gw prices are based off of British disposable income. Minimum wage there, is well very high in comparison to north american income.

Besides, its not the guys that want to voice their opinion its the guys that can not handle other peoples opinion.

Of course this is just my opinion

Cheers. ;)

Ps I may bitch about prices (though they are getting more.... well the packages are cool) but I still love to hobby.
 

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Grateful? What that gw prices are based off of British disposable income. Minimum wage there, is well very high in comparison to north american income.

Besides, its not the guys that want to voice their opinion its the guys that can not handle other peoples opinion.

Of course this is just my opinion

Cheers. ;)

Ps I may bitch about prices (though they are getting more.... well the packages are cool) but I still love to hobby.
you are correct...everybody is entitled to their opinion....but the price is the price regardless of who.what.or where...people need to stop harping on about it..deal with it or leave it..same goes with the codex issues...what is the point in a broken record..
i love the hobby.. i would love to be able to interact with GW but as i said people can stop the constant bitching hence why we dont have that connection any more...

and as for grateful...yes we should be grateful...there are people in this world that cant afford to eat..buy cloths medical care..and we bitch about the price of a piece of plastic...so yeah be greatful..
 

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you are correct...everybody is entitled to their opinion....but the price is the price regardless of who.what.or where...people need to stop harping on about it..deal with it or leave it..same goes with the codex issues...what is the point in a broken record..
i love the hobby.. i would love to be able to interact with GW but as i said people can stop the constant bitching hence why we dont have that connection any more...

and as for grateful...yes we should be grateful...there are people in this world that cant afford to eat..buy cloths medical care..and we bitch about the price of a piece of plastic...so yeah be greatful..
Very true. Not having food does really suck.
 

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It's also worth remembering that almost any publicity is good publicity.

People bitch about price, but the entire time they're bitching about price they are thinking about, talking about, and devoting time to Games Workshop.

I find it fascinating that high prices keep some gamers more engaged than just played games might.
 

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Well... I do fully get where the frustration comes from for a lot of the Old daemonhunter players though. Let me show you what GW has done with this army over the past 10 years for people who started out with them in their earliest days:

Codex: Daemonhunters

Inquisition:was there, only ordo malleus was an option though (there was nothing for ordo xenos and ordo hereticus was in codex:witchhunters). You could take henchmen back in those days, so no probs there.

Assassins: were in there. All 4 of them in the book, but you needed an inquisitor to "unlock them"

Grey knights: were in there. Psycannons were pure infantry killers (no S7rending wonders we know today). If you did go full GK infantry, you'd have ZERO anti-tank troops in your army. Hell, there was even a paragraph in the book in army selection that discouraged newer players from taking this type of force (saying you'd definatly need the emperors blessing to pull it off).

Inquisitorial stormtroopers: remember those guys? That was for the people who didn't want to run GKs or wanted to play a radical inquisitor playstyle. Half of your wargear was not allowed if you played with GK infantry, it really was a bad case of "take this to unlock this" and "avoid this to allow this".

Inducted troops: To flesh out the codex a bit, daemonhunter players were allowed to use some entries from imperial guard and space marines. Many took this option, it was all in one book (mind you, they did reference to the "parent codex" to select them). It was your only decent source of getting some much needed anti-tank options really...

Codex Grey knights:

Scratch the inducted troops and inquisitorial stormtroopers. This was also in the days that allies was not a thing... Effectively scrapping over half of my models. I still have 20 painted kasrkin troops standing around and around 40 IG veterans with a leman russ that were just plain unusable.

If you say: "well, you could still use them as IG, so no worries". There is a HUGE difference in playing a large, fully painted 2500p army on a regular basis, to then be told that you now own 2 small ones in a pointscale that your regular opponents never play. :(

Luckily, you got acces to ordo Xenos and ordo Hereticus inquisition, along with a decent fleshing out of the grey knight section. Still annoyed that there weren't any bikes added though (how much more "knight" can you get than riding your iron steed). Your assasins are still in.

New Codex Grey knights:

Inquisition: GONE, assassins: GONE. All that remains is GK stuff (and that really isn't a lot, I'll do a quick overview in the end).

In order to potentially play an army that you collected over 10 years ago, players now have to buy:

-Codex: Grey knights
-Codex: inquisition
-Codex: astra militarum/tempestus (depending on what you want).
-Codex: Space marines
-Dataslates: Assassins (lord knows they'll try to sell you all 4)

So... you can understand why a few older players have their jimmies rustled. I don't think there has been any army so far that has had such dramatic changes to what you could and couldn't field in one source as the old codex: Daemonhunters.

Also, if no new stuff is added, this is the amount of choices GK players will have in each slot:

HQ: 7 (down from 14)
Elites: 4 (down from 9)
Troops: 2 (same as before, but without Thawn as an option), lowest option possible?
Fast attack: 2 (same as before), lowest option possible?
Heavy support: 6 (same as before).

Grey knights already felt "spammy" before they cut out all those option. I'm afraid that won't get any better under these conditions. They'll also feel more powerwhore like for being forced to take so many different sources just to play with your old models.



TLDR: It's been a long essay, but in response to the "just be happy you are getting something" attitude, some GK players really do have a more than good reason to be slightly upset at yet another splitting up of their army.
 

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Guys. Could we just stop bitching at each other. We all our own options and don't think they gonna change, yes I agree it's got worse for older player now that GK is just GK now and I agree the that the deamonhunter was brill, however at the end of the day GW is company and they want to make money (all company wants this) and I don't think we gonna go back that now.

So would u rather have expansive metal models (cough sisters cough) or would like to have new plastic figures with there OWN dex. Tbh I like the last option as I could do a Inquisitorial army by allying the codex inquisition and dex Astra Milltarum and I'd be happy with that.

So let's just leave it there.



And look at the reboxing of Gray knights kits


And a assassin dataslate (how did u know @elmir)




Enjoy :)
 
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