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as i re-read the summoning rules of the new chaos codex i realized that if you summon a greater daemon, you can' move it the same turn, so it basically stands there.

this makes a greater daemon nigh on unplayable cause it gets awfully slow and can be avoided/gunned down pretty easily.

am i wrong here or is this true? please tell me your opinions, cause i wanted to use my bloodthirster in my revamped world eaters list. and since everything there isn't that fast i'd like it to reach the enemy at the same time as my other cc freaks
 

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They can be usefull but they waste one of your Champions to bring into the game.. the biggest downfall of Greater Daemons is that it is a single target which can always be targeted due to it being a Monstrous Creature.

Its like... oh look a Daemon... hey Devastator squad... shoot all your lascannons at it.. pop goes the daemon..

If you can keep them from being shot at or your going against a HtH oriented army with few or high strength attacks they can be put to great use... if your going against an army which can bring lots of powerfull attacks to bear you might want to save your points for more troopers.
 

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Well, remember that it;s only a hundred point unit. It's not going to be perfect.

But the key to any deep-striker is to drop them into cover. Summoned daemons have a HUGE advantage in that they can assault the turn they're summoned.

The key then is to try and get units close to the enemy quickly so that when the time comes you can get the daemon into assault and therefore keep him from being shot at.

The only reason I would shy away from a greater daemon is it has to eat a champion, which usually means giving up a powerfist in a given squad, or eating the points for it. Not good in an assault-oriented army.
 

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Well you consider that it costs you a Champion so that means the mininum cost for him is 130pts... if for some reason he eats something other than a barebones champion his cost can quickly skyrocket.. imagine if he has to pop out of a sorceror.. thats makes him 210pts...

His good for use in games where you might have a bunch of squads runnin around the board so that you have a lot of choices on where to pop him..
 

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I use one in my Sons list at the moment and I have him jump out of the Chosen champ. They Infiltrate so I get close, run up and attack the enemy and let him come out while in CC where he can't be shot. It has bitten me in the ass a couple of times when he didn't get on the table in time to take over the chosen champ but in general it works wonders. And a rampaging Greater Daemon charging about the enemies lines is not something anyone can ignore.
 
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