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Having received and read the new Ork Codex about two weeks ago I am quite impressed by the additions that have been made to Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka's lore Post-Armageddon. The real reason Ghazghkull left Armageddon is revealed and his new goal is revealed, one that if successful may well see the galaxy conquered by the Orks. It is the apocalypse, and the Orks are slowly realizing this, and it's time for their Aporkalypse to begin.

Ghazghkull is now travelling the galaxy, stomping every other Ork Warlord in the galaxy and adding to a new WAAAGH! that will be the final WAAAGH!, the WAAAGH! to end all WAAAGH!s. After ditching Helbrecht, Grimaldus and Yarrick, whose whereabouts are still unknown, Ghazghkull has crushed Urgok Da Slayer but rather than kill him as normal, has recruited him and his entire army to join Ghazghkull's. The Ork Codex's last mention is that he plans to move against the Overfiend of Octarius and do the same thing; defeat him, recruit him and then move against another Ork Warlord. Once he's done Ghazghkull believes this Great WAAAGH! will allow Gork and Mork to manifest and lead the Orks into the final battle.

Ghazghkull's goal is helped by the fact that the racial psychic network of the Orks is apparently goading them into more and more WAAAGH!s, the Imperium notes that the amount of WAAAGH!s across the galaxy is steadily increasing into numbers never seen before. The current theory by some is that the Orks psychic network recognizes that the End Times are upon the galaxy and is trying to ready them for the final battle.

And now with the Ghazghkull supplement the next stage of his plan has been revealed. Ghazghkull and his army, which has now swollen to the same size as the WAAAGH! of the Great Beast that nearly destroyed the Imperium in M32 and wiped out multiple Astartes Chapters. Arriving in Octarius Ghazghkull lands with his army and absolutely wrecks the Tyranids on the surface, destroying every last Tyranid on the surface of Octaria and earning the allegiance of the Overfiend, who actually swears loyalty to Ghazghkull without a fight, and in doing so has now created the greatest WAAAGH! that the galaxy has ever seen. And then it gets even worse for the galaxy; it is revealed that Ghazghkull can enter the Great Green, the racial psychic network of the Orks, and is dispensing orders to the Orks that still remain on Armageddon. Ghazghkull is still directing the Third War for Armageddon, only now there is no Yarrick and Helbrecht to stand against him. Ghazghkull is now preparing for the counter-strike by the Tyranids who are coming in immense numbers with bio-forms that the galaxy has never seen before and that have been created solely for the purpose of ending the war and destroying the Orks in Octarius permanently. Meanwhile Orkimedes, Ghazghkull's personal Mekboy, has nearly finished his work on the most powerful Tellyporta' in the galaxy, which if it works will be able to teleport Ghazghkull from Octarius back to Armageddon at will.

Ghazghkull's theory is that if he can get three or four more galactic sectors engulfed in an Armageddon/Octarius-level conflict then it will be enough to swell the Ork population to critical mass and begin the first stage of the Great WAAAGH! that will sweep across the galaxy.

Very much liking this new direction. Gives the Orks a real goal in the approaching apocalypse rather than just being bystanders between the Imperium and Chaos, the Orks have their own vision of the end and they plan to make it happen. And if Ghazghkull can unite the Orks, then the galaxy is in real danger of being overrun by them.


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A few rounds of Cyclonic Torpedos on Octarius shoudl take care of Ghazkull. I just don't know why the Imperium is waiting?
 

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Hrm...not sure how I like this new change of direction.

I don't mind Ghaz getting a super mega-WAAAGH! going. That's fine. It's how he's doing it.

Not killing the other war bosses? So...un-orky.

I mean, they could easily just written that he was wiping out the other Ork leaders and absorbing their tribes into his own.

This way he gets (almost) all the talent from these other Ork tribes while at the same time keeping the killy status quo.

On the other hand, Ghazz has always been a higher thinker than your standard war boss, so I guess there's enough wiggle room for him to be un-Orky in this absorption business.

Still, I feel this need to make other factions act closer to humanity a disturbing standard. I still have nightmares about the Necron fifth edition retcon. The poor Tyranid Hive Tyrants are also individuals as well...with the Swarm Lord being the purest example of this.

Urgh.
 

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Most of the time orky fluff never had them killing other warbosses.
Sometimes they join the WAAAGH on their own free will, but if an actual fight occurs? I can't think of an example of when an Ork would stop. The only time I can think of is when Ghaz left the Old Man survive to fight another day.

I can't find anything in the fourth edition Codex about war bosses sparing other war bosses. There's a bit about intra-tribe fighting, where Nobs of a tribe can and do challenge their warbosses to duels to the death.
 

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Sometimes they join the WAAAGH on their own free will, but if an actual fight occurs? I can't think of an example of when an Ork would stop. The only time I can think of is when Ghaz left the Old Man survive to fight another day.

I can't find anything in the fourth edition Codex about war bosses sparing other war bosses. There's a bit about intra-tribe fighting, where Nobs of a tribe can and do challenge their warbosses to duels to the death.
Purging of kadallus.

Ghazkull and another warboss fought each other then stopped due to him having tech that ghazkull saw was useful.
 

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Ghazkull and another warboss fought each other then stopped due to him having tech that ghazkull saw was useful.
Anything outside of Ghaz? He seems to be a one-off sort of guy.

I'll profess, the inner workings of the Orks eludes me. I haven't read too many novels about them outside them being a mostly brainless antagonist to be overcome at great cost (like so many other factions in the BL, haha).

I haven't found anything to really dispute or confirm exactly when two tribes come into conflict what happens to the losing warboss. Hrm.

Could someone find some non-Ghaz examples?
 

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Anything outside of Ghaz? He seems to be a one-off sort of guy.

I'll profess, the inner workings of the Orks eludes me. I haven't read too many novels about them outside them being a mostly brainless antagonist to be overcome at great cost (like so many other factions in the BL, haha).

I haven't found anything to really dispute or confirm exactly when two tribes come into conflict what happens to the losing warboss. Hrm.

Could someone find some non-Ghaz examples?
One of the cain books, the main ork base has banners from several different tribes. And one warboss in controll of the waaagh.
 

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One of the cain books, the main ork base has banners from several different tribes. And one warboss in controll of the waaagh.
Well, aye, I know that warbosses can cooperate. That's how WAAGHs get going. Plenty of sources of that.

Question is, what happens when two tribes begin start a conflict and one of the other Ork warbosses defeats the other?
 

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Well, aye, I know that warbosses can cooperate. That's how WAAGHs get going. Plenty of sources of that.

Question is, what happens when two tribes begin start a conflict and one of the other Ork warbosses defeats the other?
Usually the loser is slain and the winner takes ownership of the other tribe. I think for two warbosses to actually co-operate requires co-operation to have been on the cards from the beginning. As you said, Ghaz seems to be the exception. I'm not aware of any others that exhibit this sort of behaviour.
 

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This seems like a positive direction to take Ghazghkull and the Greenskins in. He always seemed a bit too... ridiculous... before. Abandoning Armageddon because he was bored? Hardly an individual capable of crushing the Imperium. Giving him an army the size of The Beast's also adds to the potential danger.

The one element I particularly like, is that the Imperials speculate the reason for Ghazghkull's gathering of this army is because they can, on some level, sense that the End Times are upon us.
 

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This seems like a positive direction to take Ghazghkull and the Greenskins in. He always seemed a bit too... ridiculous... before. Abandoning Armageddon because he was bored? Hardly an individual capable of crushing the Imperium. Giving him an army the size of The Beast's also adds to the potential danger.

The one element I particularly like, is that the Imperials speculate the reason for Ghazghkull's gathering of this army is because they can, on some level, sense that the End Times are upon us.
It does make sense. After all the orks were designed as super weapons.
 

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Usually the loser is slain and the winner takes ownership of the other tribe. I think for two warbosses to actually co-operate requires co-operation to have been on the cards from the beginning. As you said, Ghaz seems to be the exception. I'm not aware of any others that exhibit this sort of behaviour.

There is mentions of a warboss that fought and ouwitted the Tau under farsight. It is stated in the Tau 5th ed codex that they never would have been successfull if not for all the Blood axe bosses under this warbosses command.
 

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