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First Army List Attempt

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So, I'll be playing against an Eldar player (most likely at 750 pts since neither of us has played in years). He is pretty competitive but probably won't bring his "A" game since he's rusty and he knows I have only played twice and both times were years ago. So, I'd like to be somewhat competitive. So, here goes:

BT chapter tactics
High Marshall Helbrecht - 180

5x Scouts (camo cloaks, teleport homer) - 70
10x Crusade Squad (Sword brother with power sword, Rhino w/ Storm Bolter) - 200

5x Assault Terminators - 175

Fast Attack
Stormtalon (TL lascannon) - 125

Total 750

It's not very shooty, which is in part to play to the BT strengths and in part because against Eldar I'm outgunned anyway. This might be a bad idea, though.

So, I picked Helbrecht just because he looks like a hell of a beatstick. He is a lot of points for this size army, though. Might make him a captain or chaplain instead.

The scouts are just supposed to get close enough for the terminators to deep strike. Might not be feasible against Eldar. Open to suggestions.

The crusaders I guess will try to take an objective or just give him something to worry about.

The Stormtalon is there because it looks so good to me on paper. I'm itching to see it in action. It might suck a lot more than I expect (with low armor and HP, it could go down right away from regular joes shooting at it if he's lucky in the rolls, it seems like), but I am hoping its mobility will keep it alive while it chews up valuable units from afar.

Like I said, though, I don't have a very good idea what I'm doing, so please give critiques/suggestions!
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I think I'm just too excited to get the Stormtalon on the table. I'm kind of assuming he won't bring any anti air but if he does its points wasted so I'm removing it for now. I'm reluctant to add a rhino because I don't have a suitable proxy (only have one model atm). So, here's what I'm thinking now with your guys' input:

Chaplain (jump pack) 105

Same 270

Replaced assault terms with regular ones (getting them into cc with Eldar seems like it doesn't always work out well in batreps). Cyclone launcher 200 pts

Fast Attack
5x Assault Squad With jump packs - 85
4x Bike squad - 84

This set up seems better (except I still want to waste the points on a Stormtalon, haha). More bodies on the table and those bodies are very mobile. I might think about dropping some upgrades to try to get more assault troops. I don't know. Any more thoughts? Thanks for the help so far!
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Man, that looks pretty sweet to me. We're you thinking of putting the Emperor's Champion with the Crusaders, then? I agree with your assessment about the terminators, I think. It seems like they're too slow against Eldar and won't contribute much or will just get killed by sheer volume of shots.

Thanks for the advice so far, definitely helpful!
Yeah, I think I agree. I have done some mock battles to try to remember rules a bit better and that 5++ tended to not be reliable at all. I'm content to leave them off for now.
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I think it was fifth, that's around when I tried to get into it the first time.
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