[Morgal]

Do ig get the standard 5+ save against tau firewarriors?
if not it seems carpiece armor is very worth while.

 

[Frostbite]

Imperial Guardsmen don't get armor saves against most things. Fire Warriors eat guardsmen like candy, even if they have carapace armor. 4+ isn't bad, but having a 50% chance to try to save against 24 Str 5 shots isn't good either.

 

[Morgal]

Playing tau next thursday so will be intresting..i know nothing about them except that they can outshoot me.

 

[cccp]

no..an IG army can outshoot tau..you need to focus more on their mobile units.

and i really wouldnt bother with carapace armour, never seemed worth it to me.

 

[QuietEarth]

Tau can't outshoot you, they can only outrange you. Firewarriors are twice as expensive as your standard guardsman. Keep your tanks away from his Hammerheads. Send your Anti-Tank Squads at them or your Autocannons after his tanks.

Your Battle Tanks should crush his Crisis Suits.

 

[Frostbite]

While it is true that Tau can't outshoot you if it's firing line versus firing line, when you don't have any good targets to shoot at you start having problems. The best advice I can give you is to cut off his jumping areas, keep as many units as you can in cover, and for the love of the Emperor, keep your tanks away out of sight from his Broadsides. Be aggressive too. If a squad doesn't have a good shot, or if it has no shots, move it somewhere to keep his mobility limited. Autocannons on Devilfish, Lascannons on Hammerheads, Battlecannons on suits and Fire Warriors. Oh, and Basalisks are your friend, drop a pie plate of eternal doom on his suits that are flitting around behind cover.

 

[QuietEarth]

Frostbite has the right idea. Spread your fire lines out in such a way that the Crisis Suits can't jump back into cover. If he has Pathfinders, take them out. Those Seeker Missiles spell death.

 

[Dirge Eterna]

Never take Carapace armor vesus Tau! Tau Pulse rifles are 30", S5 AP4! It doesn't matter if you have it or not, you'll still get squashed head-on.

-Dirge

 

[QuietEarth]

Never take Carapace armor vesus Tau! Tau Pulse rifles are 30", S5 AP4! It doesn't matter if you have it or not, you'll still get squashed head-on.

-Dirge

Pulse Rifles are actually S5 AP5. Regardless, Carapace Armour isn't that great. It's too expensive and youd be better off just buying more Guardsmen.

 

[Dirge Eterna]

Eh, I'm still stuck in the 3rd Edition dex'. My bad.

-Dirge

 

[QuietEarth]

Imagine how insane it would be if Firewarriors were toting around Heavy Bolters that were rapid fire. Well, in many ways they are. I'd venture to say they have the best basic gun in the game or maybe the second next to the Necron Gauss Flayer.

 

[darkane]

plasma rifles are evil! but +3 saves are the best counter to it. i can knock down my girlfriends battle sisters but many get right back up

 

[Frodo]

I play T'au and my main guard opponent simply pushes his guard forwards in an attempt to outshoot/tie up my fw in cc. It doesn't work. also, dont let your guard be charged, even by fire warriors, there not that much better and chances are their unit has taken less casualties than yours have.

 

[stormshroud]

In my experience Fire Warriors don't like mortar fire. If you can pin units in place it allows the rest of your army a lttle more freedom and they can concentrate on other targets.

If you can I would recommend Griffons or Heavy Mortars with Infernus shells. Wonderful against non-fearless non-power armoured troops.

 

[FrozenOrb]

4+ isn't bad, but having a 50% chance to try to save against 24 Str 5 shots isn't good either.

Er that's assuming you have a full squad, all in rapid fire range, and all with LoS, and that all hit, and all wound.

 

[Red Robe]

IG versus Tau...ahhhh..the great meat grinder!
I've never had any trouble beating IG..other than APOC..when a Titan shows escorted with baneblades..tis a bit of trouble..as for fighting with the guard you've been given some very good advice..use cover,lay down some mortar fire and beware of the Crisis suits..stealth suits will also eat you alive..pathfinders are over rated..they help..but they tend to take fire 1st when you should be shooting else where.

Fire and Manuever are the keys to victory!