I sat here pondering and came up with the following:
Using Havoc's combined with a squad of Lesser Daemons will let you sit them on home objective and bring in a Scoring Unit later, while letting your Rhino squads plow forward. Havoc's are the only Heavy choice that can use an Icon, and with a set of missile launchers or something, will give you some ranged anti-tank.
Here is a list trying to use what you have and want to get. (I couldn't stick an additional HQ in, but if you shift some points around I'm sure you add one)
DP - 155
-Wings, Warptime
Zerks(8) - 258
-Champ w/fist, Rhino, EA
Zerks(8) - 258
-Champ w/fist, Rhino, EA
CSM(10) - 275
-Champ w/fist, IoK, 2X melta, Rhino
LD(8) - 104
Raptors(10) - 250
-IoK, 2X melta
Havocs(8) - 225
-IoK, 3X ML, Heavy Bolter
Havocs(8) - 225
-IoK, 3X ML, Heavy Bolter
1750
It's not optimized, but it's Khorney
I like the way you think. Finally someone is on the same page as me
Originally the plan was to be strict and have every unit bear the MoK, but I have relented on that slightly by leaving the prince unmarked... maybe I could stretch it to include unmarked havocs... they would still be based on Khorne Berzerker models with big guns, ofcourse.
Hey matt_a, I hate that as well, when you post, get a pretty good amount of views but seemingly no comments. So in this instance I'm glad to help out, and I know abit about Khorne Warbands as I proxy tested a few lists and they are very competitive IMO, I just hate all Khorne fluff lol.
Anyway for starters with regards to what you have so far I actually really like it, I'm glad to see you didn't go the three Berzerker troop choice way and instead added a very good Vannilla/Khorne squad with meltas, keep that no matter what people say as its great at multitasking depending on what your opponent brings.
The Raptors I'm not so fussed on in their current set-up, drop them down to 8 (fluffy and easier to hide in cover) and add a champion with a Powerfist to benifit from the IOK and help out against a tank or MC if your meltas miss.
IMO this list would be better served dropping the Daemon Prince all together and talking Kharn as the sole single HQ choice, (shameless self citing, read my tactica on his character in the link in my signature to see why he is amazing) and two HQ's is too much at 1750 IMO. Plus keep the Daemon Prince for 2000pt games and IMO it becomes very fluffy to use him and also would you even consider the MOK instead of Warptime to be extra fluff ?
You definately need some heavy support a dreadnought might be helpful towards this, they don't need twin CCW to be safe just don't place units in front of their 45 degree firing arcs from their weapons and it wont frenzy on your own units. A Defiler might be good and fluffy but I would give it a twin linked Lascannon to help deal with those bigger targets your list is vulnerable against. Finally using a Kharn berzerker squad in a Land Raider helps both with your need for Heavy support (two twin linked lascannons) and makes the Rhino's more survivable.
Anyway those are just some thoughts and I hope they help out. Good luck!
I hear what you are saying about the raptors. I did have them down as an 8 man squad with champ at once stage but then switched to the ten man no champ set up.... I can't quite remember my logic... maybe there was none.
The points cost comes out the same at the end, but I lose two wounds, and gain 4 STR9 I1 attacks (on the charge), in place of 12 STR5 I5 attacks.... that doesn't look as attractive now. I know the fist has other uses but I was essentially going to use the daemon prince in place of a champ in this squad, if he survives.
I was originally going to kit the prince out with a MoK, but I finally came to the conclusion that I am sacrificing a lot by choosing such a themed army already, I need to draw the line somewhere. I don't think anyone is going to hate me for not having a MoK on the prince, and even though this is meant to be a fun list, I don't want to lose
every game.
I'm still iffy on dreads. I've been browing some local gaming club forums and the jury is still out on the interpretation of fire frenzy... still seems best to avoid. Although I must say that generally the community of HO seems to be in aggreance these days.
Raptors and havocs suck in Khorne Armies.
All about defilers and Land Raiders.
This ain't a typical Khorne army, and I don't think defilers are the answer here, nor raiders.
First off why would you take a TL lascannon, its a waste of twenty points, its unlikely to be used unless the battlecannon is destroyed. The problem with defilers is thay are just so big! But I've had some great success with the boys!
The best things for dreads if you don't go double ccw is either plasma cannon or missle launchers! (actually the plasma cannon is only viable if your running a Land Raider)
I haven't used raptors so I cant comment on their use, I have them but never rolled them out!
I don't like nilla marines, I try to run the buggers (playing black legion I feel I should have some) but they never seem to perform!
I can see a lot of good logic in taking the lascannon. Unfortunately that pushes the price of a defiler over the edge and makes it (for me) way too expensive.
DCCW dreads would not work in this list. Given how my list is built, I don't think a plasma cannon would be the weapon of choice either. I think it would be a toss up between an autocannon and lascannon... but then for the price that starts to make predators look attractive again.
Thanks for the replies guys, this is exactly what I was after. Not just two word answers, and definately some food for thought. I have by no means made up my mind, but I think I am starting to really lean towards either havocs or predators... I mean if you look at the list, it is fairly old school in a way in how it uses raptors and standard CSMs (albeit with MoK) and I've already broken most of the "rules" for unit selection, why not break a couple more? Maybe at the end of the day the list will end up being so "wrong" that it actually surprises people when it works.... or maybe it'll just fail
One last query while it is on my mind, what are peoples thoughts as far as HQs and quantity.... is 2 too much for 1750? The models are just sooo cool, I wants more!
