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how many girls do 40k at your local i don't think i've ever seen a girl in my local atall.
 

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You have females in Indiana?
 

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I`m married to one...
 

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Every female I've ever seen play 40k or fantasy was married to/going out with a gamer and just "wanted to spend more time with him."

I wouldn't even count that.
 

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I didn't even think they existed till I stumbled across these forums. I've noticed one posting on here fairly often, she seems to know her stuff and she looks cute too.
 

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There's a bunch of sad geeks at the game store here that repel any and all females on 40K wednesdays. I keep hoping I'll stumble upon some other group to join, before I finish painting my first army.
 

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I learned the hard way playing competitive magic to never underestimate female players, sat down to play one at the 1st table at a PTQ and got spanked by her. Turns out she was the wife of a multiple PT winner and now Magic employee.
 

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I didn't even think they existed till I stumbled across these forums. I've noticed one posting on here fairly often, she seems to know her stuff and she looks cute too.
*clears throat and glares*

Other than myself, there's one female gamer at my local club.
 

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at my store we dont have any female 40k players but we do get acouple in for rpg games I have seen a couple in the GT i went to before they got rid of it one of them a fantasy player actually did really good and ended up with best paint job undead orcs with glow in the dark paint is so cool lol.
 

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my wee bony lass is a gamer, although she ain't a local unfortunatly
and with all the sick vile perverts infesting my GW's.......and 90% of GW;s, I don't think I would want her to be
 

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Both of my daughters play to some extent, and I know of a few who paint some of the figs for the local players, but only one who plays at the local shoppe. Oddly enough, as the stereotype claims, she plays Witch Hunters... Weird.
 

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There's a few marvellous reason why there are so few females in wargaming.

First, the wargames. 40K and Fantasy in particular. The whole GRIMANDDARK hyperbole just doesn't seem to have the same attraction to women as men. The basic idea of wargaming doesn't seem to be as appealing to women as men. The notion of pushing around figures and rolling dice to simulate them killing each other doesn't seem to have the same attraction for women as it does for men. In fact, the only thing that I can think of which seems to hold a similar appeal to men and women is the modelling aspect of the hobby, and even then it seems that the aforementioned GRIMANDDARKness of much of the modelling seems to turn away many would-be hobbyists.

Secondly, the women. Let's face it, gender-based conditioning is such a massive portion of our modern socialisation of children that it is effectively impossible to remove for most people, even if they are fully aware AND want to change, are rare combo at best. It just so happens that what boys are told they should want is much more likely to draw them to 40K and Fantasy, and what girls are told they want is very likely to push them away. And let's face it, most peopel get into the hobby as childrne or teenagers, long before they get the opportunity to replace their stock set of preconceived gender identities with the set they have built for themselves, which even then for women is very likely to contain the female prohibitions that make them dislike the hobby. This is also why it seems women come into the hobby much more than girls, since only the former have really had the opportunity to determine for themselves whether or not they should be doing it.

Finally, the men. THE KIDS. The hobby shops, especially GW stores, are the public face of our hobby. This is where females are exposed to the products, be it through being dragged in by another person, walking past and noticing, or in obscenely rare cases, simply walking in and looking. Unfortunately, they are cesspools of unwashed, overly loud boys so obnoxious nobody who has not seen them can truly appreciate it, and of unwashed, overly quiet late teens and men who are often so incapable of playing their part in a social environment, and I genuinely mean to complement here, that it is an amazing accomplishment for them to have made it to the store without becoming overwhelmed and retreating. The workers are often as bad or worse, acting with all the subtlety of a Templar Crusader Rush to give you whatever outdated, inapplicable or semi-fabricated advice neccesary to make you buy something you invariably don't want or need so they can get one step closer to a supervisory job and the glories of pay comparable with an entry-level position at most other retail outlets. These three combine to make any sight of a GW store so amazingly unappealing to anybody that even veteran hobbyists desire so little to visit them that they form their own social groups to avoid such unpleasantries. If these people, who often used to be one of the former three types, cannot bear the experience, what chance do you think a 'right-thinking' woman stands? Further, the way that stores drive away the sane, social and showered individuals only accentuates this effect. The sheer unpleasantness of these stores renders the chances of women or girls entering the hobby of their own accord out of interest so close to zero that I have never even heard tell of one who just walked into a GW store and started, like so many boys did. This also explains the way that it seems so many women enter the hobby through someone else, usually a boyfriend or husband, because they then have a three-S male to let them bypass the storefronts.


These three factors are almost certainly the primary reasons that women are not into the hobby, and their synergistic effect is why the gender balance is so disproportionate. I say 'almost certainly' because I know of so few women in the hobby that it would simply not be plausible for a representative sampel to be obtained. Fortunately, this is evidence in and of itself.

Still, if anyone is, was, or knows a woman in the hobby, it would be good to hear if their sotries back up my theory.
 
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