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Van Horstmann? it's been too long :D

Archaeon on a Dragon and now a level 4 caster? Assuming he keeps all his rules.... 2 million point model incoming.

And a new Bloodthirster/mutated Khorne character (along the lines of the glottkin, perhaps) is more than welcome. The current Bloodthirster is from the 90s, I believe? (ignoring the 'new' head it got in the mid 00s).
 

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Pretty sure Galrauch will be roughly the same size, or a little larger, than most of the Dragon models in the range (so way bigger than he is now). I'm thinking cross between a zombie dragon and a DE black dragon.

If he gets End Times rules I'd totally want to use the Emperor Chaos Dragon model from Forge World though. That thing is a beast (I'd never paint it for fear of doing it wrong!)
 

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What?! That's crap! I mean all that stuff about Archaon is awesome, and I would definitely get a kit that can make him and Van Horstmann. But that's it?! Five books to cover the end of the Warhammer World?? What about all the other factions and what they are doing, like the Lizardmen, the Orcs and Goblins, the Beastmen?? What about the character plots like Settra wanting revenge on Nagash, Teclis and his Avatars taking on the Chaos Gods, Vlad von Carstein hunting for Isabella and trying to become the Elector Count of Sylvania??

If the End Times really does end here then it's wasting so much potential. I would have thought 10 books would be where it ends, one for each key faction and maybe one or two extras to cover important characters and events, like maybe the big final battle being two books like the Shield of Baal campaign for 40k. I will be very disappointed if this really is the end of the series, so much that could have been done and it's just left alone.


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What?! That's crap! I mean all that stuff about Archaon is awesome, and I would definitely get a kit that can make him and Van Horstmann. But that's it?! Five books to cover the end of the Warhammer World?? What about all the other factions and what they are doing, like the Lizardmen, the Orcs and Goblins, the Beastmen?? What about the character plots like Settra wanting revenge on Nagash, Teclis and his Avatars taking on the Chaos Gods, Vlad von Carstein hunting for Isabella and trying to become the Elector Count of Sylvania??

If the End Times really does end here then it's wasting so much potential. I would have thought 10 books would be where it ends, one for each key faction and maybe one or two extras to cover important characters and events, like maybe the big final battle being two books like the Shield of Baal campaign for 40k. I will be very disappointed if this really is the end of the series, so much that could have been done and it's just left alone.


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Maybe that's just the last book before the cataclysmic event that begins 9th edition. As far as WFB rumors go, the 9th edition stuff has outshined a few others, one of which being a box set.

If they are really going to consolidate the armies down to 6 books, they still have a lot left to explain. I doubt they'll leave any loose ends before they release said army books. As far as all armies getting ET attention, who knows.
 

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Having spoken with my local GW dude (apparently used to work at head office and Warhammer Forge as one of the email answerers before WHF quasi collapsed and then got sick of working with interns with a crib sheet and only a basic working knowledge about the game) about reserving a copy of Archaon whenever it drops, and getting into a discussion about it.

Supposedly, it's taking inspiration from the original "end of warhammer" that the WHF guys had at the start of the production for Tamurkhan, but it didn't get much traction due to the limited nature of it, and the fact that at the end of it, it was written to be just a burp in time and removed from memory (he said at that point, the FW office was split into whether to go into the past of Warhammer, and do things like Battle of Blackfire Pass, or the War of Vengeance and to tie it in with the Time of Legends etc, but it was sort of overruled when many of the major events were earmarked by the WHF GW Team and said they couldn't use that. So he says).

So, they settled on going back for some source material, and settled on Tamurkhan - and were planning on bringing out 3 other books for the gods, but like I said, Tamurkhan was gotten for the rules of the Carmine Dragon and the Chaos Dwarfs only, pretty much, which left the rest of the book and game progression to stagnate, and hence no new releases, which led to no new interest, and so no new releases, ad infinitum ad absurdium.

The basic ideas of the time bubbles, and "the end of the warhammer world" (as in the original ideas) then went over to the Fantasy team. They chose different storylines, and included things such as the resurrection of Nagash, and turning him into a "force for good", or "not-bad", at least, and then taking it 5 books to allow the big bads of the setting - including Be'lakor and Archaon to take centre stage once more (his mention of Be'lakor was interesting-ish), then they'd go and focus on the other books. After all, the 9th edition rumour about the shattered worlds is as a result of Mazdamundi and Kroak enacting the Big Fucking Red Button of the old ones, supposedly, and there's no mention of that anywhere.



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Simply put, I don't buy the 'bubble' rumors.

Why? Because GW makes money. I really can't imagine them cutting their product like like that... not to mention the sheer alienation that would come from killing off 90% of their armies. I know I for one would probably stop right there, since I collect for a theme, and if my High Elves fell apart... well, they already have, but I can handle 'Elves'. But to see the entire existance just... disappear? Nah.

I'm also getting a bit miffed at the lack of Tzeentch love, both in 40k (oh good, more Khorne stuff), and Fantasy.
 

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Simply put, I don't buy the 'bubble' rumors.

Why? Because GW makes money. I really can't imagine them cutting their product like like that... not to mention the sheer alienation that would come from killing off 90% of their armies. I know I for one would probably stop right there, since I collect for a theme, and if my High Elves fell apart... well, they already have, but I can handle 'Elves'. But to see the entire existance just... disappear? Nah.

I'm also getting a bit miffed at the lack of Tzeentch love, both in 40k (oh good, more Khorne stuff), and Fantasy.
I'm thinking, and expecting the whole bubble thing to be just awful wording from the rumour spreader. Self contained little bubbles of existence bouncing around to cause the Warhammer world's conflict seems.... ineffective, fluff wise. I take bubbles to mean more like continental fragments with any number of factions stranded on them(think the Outlands from Warcraft) Which is kinda close to the bubble deal, but at least a little more tangible. OR, bubbles meaning the factions have been separated, broken apart and struggling against extreme odds. (IE a bubble of dwarfs stuck in the chaos wastes trying to get home).
 

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What?! That's crap! I mean all that stuff about Archaon is awesome, and I would definitely get a kit that can make him and Van Horstmann. But that's it?! Five books to cover the end of the Warhammer World?? What about all the other factions and what they are doing, like the Lizardmen, the Orcs and Goblins, the Beastmen?? What about the character plots like Settra wanting revenge on Nagash, Teclis and his Avatars taking on the Chaos Gods, Vlad von Carstein hunting for Isabella and trying to become the Elector Count of Sylvania??

If the End Times really does end here then it's wasting so much potential. I would have thought 10 books would be where it ends, one for each key faction and maybe one or two extras to cover important characters and events, like maybe the big final battle being two books like the Shield of Baal campaign for 40k. I will be very disappointed if this really is the end of the series, so much that could have been done and it's just left alone.


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Ever since the very first rumours about the End Times we heard that there would only be 4 books so having 5 seems good to me.

It's pretty clear that Lizardmen and Dwarves are covered in Thanquol and I've seem mention of Orc's in there too.

As for the other plot lines you mention, presumably they will all be wrapped up in Archaon which I'm assuming will put a definitive end on everything.

It's a bit disappointing that Khaine seems to have been the only book that doesn't come with a big new model. But then I guess the Elves had the most guys on Dragon's anyway. Looking forward to seeing new Archaon. No doubt he'll be a beast.
 

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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/01/plastic-bloodthirster-details.html

Here's some more crap about the Bloodthirster.

“The Plastic Bloodthirster is real.

Kit makes three models a normal bloodthirster with whip and Axe of Khorne, one wielding a monstrous two-handed axe, third has a doubleheaded axe and super long chain flail. The wings are really big – the model is almost as big as Nagash, and is extra tall. It is sculpted on top of a flickering flame. There are three different heads with different types of horns and helmets. Large armoured hooves, thigh straps, regular upper body strapps and gladiator kindof armour. Super muscular, like a super ripped world’s strongest man mixed with a Khorne daemon.”
 

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From BoLS:
via Captain Citadel 1-20-2015
“Archaon is indeed book five of the End Times, and will be new models coming too.
It will be released sometime in March. Book one has an artist’s rendering of Archaon weilding the Kingslayer on the cover and Book two’s cover is a very nice picture of the current model of Archaon.
The book concentrates on the forces of Khorne, however Orcs and Goblins finally make their appearance in End Times and Grimgor is featured heavily in this book (with rules).
All eight of the Incarnates are revealed, including some BIG surprises on a Shakespearean level.
I talked about the blood thirster recently, but there are more units coming too. Khorne will also be getting Skullreapers, and Wrathmongers.
The Skullreapers look like the Khador Doomreavers with tall doublehanded halbreds, and the Wrathmongers resemble miniature humoid versions of the Lord of Skulls, but with leather armour.”
 

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Mmmm. That could be amazing.
 

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@Einherjar667 that's quite an understatement. Lame and pedantic. Reference the old Lizardmen and Bretonian books. Nigel Stillman. Lord Kroak, the dead frog. Ugh.
 
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