[zerachiel76]

I was reading the Lexicanum entry on Solitaires yesterday and something struck me as strange. The opening paragraph doesn't make sense to me as it's entirely contradictory to Eldar fluff.

"Solitaires are Harlequins who have, through some means, lost their souls. At death they are doomed to be claimed by Slaanesh. Only through a gamble by the Laughing God can they be saved."

As far as I'm aware the reason the Eldar wear spirit stones is that when they die their souls are absorbed into the stone and thus protecting it from entering the warp and being consumed by Slaanesh.

How then does Slaanesh claim the soul of a Solitaire when it specifically says they have lost their souls. If they have no soul then it cannot be claimed by Slaanesh? If Slaanesh has consumed at the point of it being lost from their body then surely they would be instantly corrupted, killed or possessed. Either way they're not going to be let into the Black Library if there is any question of them being corrupted?

I'm reasonably sure this is still current fluff so can anyone else throw some light on this strangeness?

 

[Khorne's Fist]

I thought it had to do with the solitaires not wearing soul stones, rather than not having souls. That is what makes them feared and respected by the Eldar on both sides of the fence. If they didn't have souls they would be Pariahs, and I've never heard of the Eldar having the Pariah gene.

Of course, not having read the current codex or Path of the Eldar trilogy, I'm not up on current fluff, and thus could be talking out my ass.

 

[Moriouce]

He has not lost his soul as it has ceased to exist. He has lost it to Slaanesh for some reason. No Harlequins wears waystones cause their Souls join with the laughing god at death. But the solitair's soul belongs to Slaanesh and is her's to collect at death. I can look up citation from the eldar trilogy if you like.

 

[zerachiel76]

He has not lost his soul as it has ceased to exist. He has lost it to Slaanesh for some reason. No Harlequins wears waystones cause their Souls join with the laughing god at death. But the solitair's soul belongs to Slaanesh and is her's to collect at death. I can look up citation from the eldar trilogy if you like.

If you wouldn't mind that would be great as it would answer my question. Does the Eldar trilogy explain how the Solitaire actually continues living if their souls have been removed?

After all it's not like Pariah's who have never had a soul, but that their soul has lost it's link to the body. I thought there was something in A Thousand Sons where Ahriman talks about the danger of severing the link between body and soul and if it was to happen, the body dies or at least becomes a vegetable? I may be wrong so please correct me if so?

Also if the soul has ceased to exist, has it been absorbed by Slaanesh or has it simply faded away and ceased to exist? If it's been absorbed I wonder why Solitaires aren't subject to corruption and are allowed entry to the Black Library? If it's ceased to exist then Slaanesh can't have it.

 

[Malus Darkblade]

Seems like the LG takes it for safekeeping.

 

[Moriouce]

If you wouldn't mind that would be great as it would answer my question. Does the Eldar trilogy explain how the Solitaire actually continues living if their souls have been removed?



After all it's not like Pariah's who have never had a soul, but that their soul has lost it's link to the body. I thought there was something in A Thousand Sons where Ahriman talks about the danger of severing the link between body and soul and if it was to happen, the body dies or at least becomes a vegetable? I may be wrong so please correct me if so?



Also if the soul has ceased to exist, has it been absorbed by Slaanesh or has it simply faded away and ceased to exist? If it's been absorbed I wonder why Solitaires aren't subject to corruption and are allowed entry to the Black Library? If it's ceased to exist then Slaanesh can't have it.

They still have their souls, yet it belongs to Slaanesh. They are by no means souless. I'll check my books tonight.

 

[Gret79]

Moriouce is bang on - the eldar that takes the role of the solitaire forfeits his/her soul to slaanesh.
When the solitaire dies, slaanesh claims the soul and a battle is fought between the laughing god and slaanesh. the laughing god sometimes wins, but not often.

Until he/she dies, the solitaire keeps their soul. I'd quote, but I'm away from my books.

 

[zerachiel76]

They still have their souls, yet it belongs to Slaanesh. They are by no means souless. I'll check my books tonight.

Moriouce is bang on - the eldar that takes the role of the solitaire forfeits his/her soul to slaanesh.
When the solitaire dies, slaanesh claims the soul and a battle is fought between the laughing god and slaanesh. the laughing god sometimes wins, but not often.

Until he/she dies, the solitaire keeps their soul. I'd quote, but I'm away from my books.

Ahh I see, they still have their souls inside their bodies but they are forfeit. That makes more sense.