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Well, there would be resistance at first. We might do pretty well nuking them at he start, but when the SM come down, they'd probably decimate a major country or something. In the worst-case scenario, either we go all up against them and they declare us heretics and spawn of Chaos and Exterminatus us, or just denounce us as heretics straight away and Exterminatus us. Assuming this doesn't happen or they don't Exterminatus us, (they'd probably recognise the galactic coordinates of Holy Terra, and therefore want to preserve it) then any long wars would be doomed to failure. The Imperium has 1,000,000 Space Marines and hundreds of thousands of millions of billions of trillions of Imperial Guard. This wouldn't be a war we'd get out of easily, and the situation here would be like on Cadia in the sense of these two quotes:
"The birthrate and recruitment rate on Cadia are synonymous..."
"Any child on Cadia who can't strip, reassemble and fire a lasgun before he can read was born on the wrong planet."
Even with this, we might end up barely coming out, not just because of the Imperium's far superior numbers but also because of CREEEEEEEEED! (Though it is possible we could match Creed, since modern tactics are far superior to 41st Millennium tactics and our tacticians would be tactical geniuses by 40K standards.) However, most of the IG will be up in their ships for most of the time so a few nukes and missiles into the Imperial Navy could tip the balance in our favour.
Eventually, we would probably still end up losing (damn you Space Marines and your overpowered statlines and special rules!) and we would have to accept the God-Emperor as our rightful saviour and protector before he's even saved us. Life as usual, 40K style, and we both contribute something to the other. The Imperium gives us Warp travel and the opportunity to ply the stars, we give the Imperium better tactics and some scientific innovation. A couple of revolutions will spring up, and I know for a fact that one will end up being quite large and then execute Robin Cruddace and Mat Ward for making IG and SM so amazingly overpowered. Others will probably have someone come in and say they're actually the Emperor, since for all the Imperium knows they could be as this is the distant past and the Emperor is probably among us somewhere. These rebellions would fail whenever they sprung up.
In a few millennia we would get up to the Dark Age of Technology, as our top scientists and the Adeptus Mechanicum finally manage to reverse engineer the weapons and technology of the Imperium and use this knowledge to pioneer the things that were left behind and not yet found in the 41st Millennium. Thus, we enter the Dark Age of Technology and we encounter the races that also exist in 40K. We reign supreme for another few millennia, then become like the Eloi from H.G. Wells' novel The Time Machine, or possibly more like the humans from Wall-E as our great technologies drive us into decadence and laziness. We fail to notice the encroaching threat of the xenos and Chaos, and then we are dealt a great blow. We enter the Age of Strife, and there would have been rebellions going on for all this time. At the end of the Age of Strife, one man is successful in his claims that he is the God-Emperor. By this time, many have forgotten that he existed, and the rest is history.
Thinking realistically, we see no threat in the large armies of 30cm tall metal and plastic miniatures, and after some petitions to the governments of the world by wargamers and hippies, we allow the Imperium to live, and we get one of the High Lords or Tigurius to tell us where they came from and how they got here. We then manage to get all the other armies out of the 40K universe, and after some persuasion (e.g. capturing major gods and leaders and keeping them in underground facilities) we get the armies to submit themselves to the service of wargamers, dividing them out between us. A rewrite of 40K is then put in place, a cloning system based on Dark Eldar technology is developed to make sure miniatures which get slain in your battles can come back, and also so that armies where there are not many warriors to go around can be given out to everyone. And 40K is now a lot more awesome.
If the Imperium is at real scale, and they're accepting diplomacy from us, then after a few weeks, maybe a month or two to give our answer to the Imperium's ultimatum the governments of the world send wargamers who play Imperium armies to go up and send our message and to swear oaths of fealty to the God-Emperor on behalf of the human race. In these few months, every wargamer has wisely switched to an Imperial army and we become the world leaders and generals in a new Golden Age of Humanity. 40K is reinvented as a means to test out tactics for battles and campaigns against xenos.
"The birthrate and recruitment rate on Cadia are synonymous..."
"Any child on Cadia who can't strip, reassemble and fire a lasgun before he can read was born on the wrong planet."
Even with this, we might end up barely coming out, not just because of the Imperium's far superior numbers but also because of CREEEEEEEEED! (Though it is possible we could match Creed, since modern tactics are far superior to 41st Millennium tactics and our tacticians would be tactical geniuses by 40K standards.) However, most of the IG will be up in their ships for most of the time so a few nukes and missiles into the Imperial Navy could tip the balance in our favour.
Eventually, we would probably still end up losing (damn you Space Marines and your overpowered statlines and special rules!) and we would have to accept the God-Emperor as our rightful saviour and protector before he's even saved us. Life as usual, 40K style, and we both contribute something to the other. The Imperium gives us Warp travel and the opportunity to ply the stars, we give the Imperium better tactics and some scientific innovation. A couple of revolutions will spring up, and I know for a fact that one will end up being quite large and then execute Robin Cruddace and Mat Ward for making IG and SM so amazingly overpowered. Others will probably have someone come in and say they're actually the Emperor, since for all the Imperium knows they could be as this is the distant past and the Emperor is probably among us somewhere. These rebellions would fail whenever they sprung up.
In a few millennia we would get up to the Dark Age of Technology, as our top scientists and the Adeptus Mechanicum finally manage to reverse engineer the weapons and technology of the Imperium and use this knowledge to pioneer the things that were left behind and not yet found in the 41st Millennium. Thus, we enter the Dark Age of Technology and we encounter the races that also exist in 40K. We reign supreme for another few millennia, then become like the Eloi from H.G. Wells' novel The Time Machine, or possibly more like the humans from Wall-E as our great technologies drive us into decadence and laziness. We fail to notice the encroaching threat of the xenos and Chaos, and then we are dealt a great blow. We enter the Age of Strife, and there would have been rebellions going on for all this time. At the end of the Age of Strife, one man is successful in his claims that he is the God-Emperor. By this time, many have forgotten that he existed, and the rest is history.
Thinking realistically, we see no threat in the large armies of 30cm tall metal and plastic miniatures, and after some petitions to the governments of the world by wargamers and hippies, we allow the Imperium to live, and we get one of the High Lords or Tigurius to tell us where they came from and how they got here. We then manage to get all the other armies out of the 40K universe, and after some persuasion (e.g. capturing major gods and leaders and keeping them in underground facilities) we get the armies to submit themselves to the service of wargamers, dividing them out between us. A rewrite of 40K is then put in place, a cloning system based on Dark Eldar technology is developed to make sure miniatures which get slain in your battles can come back, and also so that armies where there are not many warriors to go around can be given out to everyone. And 40K is now a lot more awesome.
If the Imperium is at real scale, and they're accepting diplomacy from us, then after a few weeks, maybe a month or two to give our answer to the Imperium's ultimatum the governments of the world send wargamers who play Imperium armies to go up and send our message and to swear oaths of fealty to the God-Emperor on behalf of the human race. In these few months, every wargamer has wisely switched to an Imperial army and we become the world leaders and generals in a new Golden Age of Humanity. 40K is reinvented as a means to test out tactics for battles and campaigns against xenos.
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In all fairness, if it was a case of fighting on the ground only (no orbital stuff) we would win. the Imperial guard wouldn't be to happy when they see that our tanks (Challenger mk.2, Abrams m1a1 and the leopard II for example) can hit their tanks from outside their own range, are less of a target due to their smaller build and have stronger armour.
The guard would win battle due to massive numbers, but they would take some pretty damn heavy casualties due to the weapons we use combined with out tactics. And seeings that our planes would easily beat the imperial flyer, we would own the skies, so with the support of planes and helicopters ground battles might actually swing our way.
As far as space marines go, If a lasgun can has been seen to penetrate a suit of power armour, a normal 5.56mm round might strungle, but any of the bigger calibre ammunition wound probably get through, so 12.7/ .50 cal, 40mm grenades, 20mm & 30mm cannon etc. would probably do the damage. Besides, we have neutron bombs specifically designed to kill the people inside the armour.
The elite troops we have would be better than the elite troops that the guard have, sostrikes from them would be pretty effective against any groud based targets that the imperials would have, that combined with our arial support, naval capabilities and extreme long range smart weapons their supply routes and command structure wouldn't last to long once it has been located.
It would be most likely similair to the Halo universe in which mankind can win almost every ground engagement but almost always loses in the space battles.
The guard would win battle due to massive numbers, but they would take some pretty damn heavy casualties due to the weapons we use combined with out tactics. And seeings that our planes would easily beat the imperial flyer, we would own the skies, so with the support of planes and helicopters ground battles might actually swing our way.
As far as space marines go, If a lasgun can has been seen to penetrate a suit of power armour, a normal 5.56mm round might strungle, but any of the bigger calibre ammunition wound probably get through, so 12.7/ .50 cal, 40mm grenades, 20mm & 30mm cannon etc. would probably do the damage. Besides, we have neutron bombs specifically designed to kill the people inside the armour.
The elite troops we have would be better than the elite troops that the guard have, sostrikes from them would be pretty effective against any groud based targets that the imperials would have, that combined with our arial support, naval capabilities and extreme long range smart weapons their supply routes and command structure wouldn't last to long once it has been located.
It would be most likely similair to the Halo universe in which mankind can win almost every ground engagement but almost always loses in the space battles.
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Ah, about time I saw one of these.
I'm in complete agreement with Hoobit. Except that when the tides of war turned against us irrevocably -- we'd, the stubborn little bastards we are, would sooner send our world into nuclear holocaust rather than submit to non-democratic government. So the Imperium would win and inherit a radioactive wasteland and the millions upon millions, and thousands upon thousands, of Guard and Space Marine corpses.
On that note -- this is actually my 2012 Conspiracy theory, a long shot I know, but its unique. I do not believe the Imperium will find us -- but rather some other Human Empire with him we lost contact with hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Now ... how that particular exchange goes, it anyways guess.
I'm in complete agreement with Hoobit. Except that when the tides of war turned against us irrevocably -- we'd, the stubborn little bastards we are, would sooner send our world into nuclear holocaust rather than submit to non-democratic government. So the Imperium would win and inherit a radioactive wasteland and the millions upon millions, and thousands upon thousands, of Guard and Space Marine corpses.
On that note -- this is actually my 2012 Conspiracy theory, a long shot I know, but its unique. I do not believe the Imperium will find us -- but rather some other Human Empire with him we lost contact with hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Now ... how that particular exchange goes, it anyways guess.
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Whatever happens, we (the 40k fluff fans) are all fucked, we have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much information the inner working of chaos, xenos and the Imperium in general, including events they would rather us not know or have forgotten ^^
We are all doomed to spend our lives in some Inquisition cell, giving them all our info. Sucks to be us
We are all doomed to spend our lives in some Inquisition cell, giving them all our info. Sucks to be us
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"You say the Emperor is real? I don't get to be a Servitor do I? No? Cool, sign me up."
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Space Marines teleport into the bedrooms of every major leader on Earth... the spinless, corrupt tramps immediately capitulate. The world’s armies gear themselves up for a big scrap... see ten Legion's of Titans striding across the battlefield surrounded by 1000,000 IG, 100,000 tanks, the skies full of Imperial battle cruisers... crap pants, lay down weapons. All Hail the God Emperor!
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OK, teleport into the bunkers then! Problem solved.. :victory:
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I guess I would pray to the a<llmighty C'Tan to come and save us with their armies of love and deadly space robot undeads 
I guess I would transform myself into a Necron and sleep a few millenia until the big show is over...
Or maybe I would enter the Adeptus Mechanicus. I like that guys. Almost necron, but not as sleepy as the full metals
I guess I would transform myself into a Necron and sleep a few millenia until the big show is over...
Or maybe I would enter the Adeptus Mechanicus. I like that guys. Almost necron, but not as sleepy as the full metals
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I know this is a little after your post but what is the Pegasus Hoobit?
Us Brits would be fine, we'd bribe the Imperium to let us join peacefully with PG Tips
and a free monkey!!
Jokes aside, unless the government has a Death Star hiding behind the Moon (or is the Moon the Death Star?) which could just burst out behind their fleet and vaporize it, then we'd be dead or have joined them.
Oh, and accordingly to my Local GW manager, and space marine can easily withstand a nuke going off in his adamantium armor, even if he sat on it.
Us Brits would be fine, we'd bribe the Imperium to let us join peacefully with PG Tips
and a free monkey!!
Jokes aside, unless the government has a Death Star hiding behind the Moon (or is the Moon the Death Star?) which could just burst out behind their fleet and vaporize it, then we'd be dead or have joined them.
Oh, and accordingly to my Local GW manager, and space marine can easily withstand a nuke going off in his adamantium armor, even if he sat on it.
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No.no.no, he has truth to his meaning, the first "Power Armor" was developed when mankind had found warp travel (the age where we all go really far in space ships like in Star Trek), the suit was used by engineers to freely walk into the engines to repair them, and being so tough they easily withstand the plasma bouncing around everywhere. He never talks bs this guy, trust me.
Still not convinced? Why don't the advanced races (Eldar, Tau) use nukes against SMs? Because they're useless.
(As in they're ineffective, not saying the races suck,)
Still not convinced? Why don't the advanced races (Eldar, Tau) use nukes against SMs? Because they're useless.
(As in they're ineffective, not saying the races suck,)
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Nope.
Well OK maybe with the moon being the Deatstar....
Well OK maybe with the moon being the Deatstar....
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If thats the case, why can a boltgun kill a SM, or anyother weapon in the game for that point.???? I think that the weakest gun I have read about killing a SM in any book has been a Lasgun.
It might be able to deal with the standard radiation found in a reactor, but neutron radiation and a hell of a blast force, maybe not.
Pegasus is the bunker for the Leaders of the country, its somewhere in london but other than that I don't know alot about it.
It might be able to deal with the standard radiation found in a reactor, but neutron radiation and a hell of a blast force, maybe not.
Pegasus is the bunker for the Leaders of the country, its somewhere in london but other than that I don't know alot about it.
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Fair point there Hoobit, didn't think of it like that.
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