well actually perturabo primarch of the iron warriors also wore terminator armour,
Descriptions of Horus vs Images of him.
Maybe it is just me, but when reading HH books with the descriptions of Horus, I don't imagine him in the Terminator armour with no peripheral vision and huge quantities of plugs in his bald scalp.
I was just looking at the picture that is here : http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2010/07/Age2.jpg
And while it is a nice fearsome depiction, that is completely at odds with the charasmatic, standing on the bridge looking out into space, wounded unto death by the anethma character I have in my head.
Anyone else, or am I the only one ?
I was just looking at the picture that is here : http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2010/07/Age2.jpg
And while it is a nice fearsome depiction, that is completely at odds with the charasmatic, standing on the bridge looking out into space, wounded unto death by the anethma character I have in my head.
Anyone else, or am I the only one ?
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But that backbacks pretty irrelevant unless Ferrus is suddenly an Owl. Not sure even Primarchs can do a good old 180 with their next, so backback not an issue. And round his necks a gorget to protect is neck, for all the good it did him, doesnt really block his vision at all.
Where does it say Pertuabo wears terminator armour?
Where does it say Pertuabo wears terminator armour?
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Perturabo
well it doesnt actually say he does, but the artwork does
well it doesnt actually say he does, but the artwork does
Er...correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Manus go into battle with Fireblade (the sword he forged in the contest against Fulgirm under mount Naydara (spelling?)) and he duelled with fulgrim using the sword taken from Laeran? sorry would check but ive loaned my copy of Fulgrim to a friend.Well I'm not sure about the look of Fulgrim's Sword but Ferrus Manus used a Hammer in his battle against the Emperor's Children Primarch not a giant wrench.:
Also I don't think that horus' armour lacking peripheral vision is a big problem, he's watched over by the powers of chaos and is a primarch for heavens sake
Fulgrim forged the hammer and ferus forged the blade, yes, but once they had seen what the other had forged they both had nerdgasms and traded. Fulgrim later replaced Fireblade with the Lawhatsits blade and yadayadayada the sword goes sentient, saves fulgrim.... And lops ferus's head off. I believe.
You are correct I thought my original comment was inaccurate but was too tired to bother checking my copy of Fulgrim- just checked and the hammer is present for a while, used by Fulgrim until Ferrus wounds the EC Primarch badly enough that he drops Forgebreaker.Er...correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Manus go into battle with Fireblade (the sword he forged in the contest against Fulgirm under mount Naydara (spelling?)) and he duelled with fulgrim using the sword taken from Laeran? sorry would check but ive loaned my copy of Fulgrim to a friend.
Wait... Fulgrim used a hammer? No, he used fireblade; manus used forgebreaker. Furlgim didn't even use fireblade in the battle.
Last bit of that might be wrong but I know fulgrim didn't use forgebreaker.
Last bit of that might be wrong but I know fulgrim didn't use forgebreaker.
i think hes on about the fight between them on the ship before the massacre, could be wrong tho
Yeah... That would make more sense. Been so long since I read it I had forgotten that fight. Sorry about that, baron.
I suggest you pick up and read Fulgrim then, I think you'll enjoy it- especially the part where on 2 separate occasions Fulgrim uses Forgebreaker.Wait... Fulgrim used a hammer? No, he used fireblade; manus used forgebreaker. Furlgim didn't even use fireblade in the battle.
Last bit of that might be wrong but I know fulgrim didn't use forgebreaker.
1) On Ferrus' ship after having used Fireblade, which Ferrus takes from him.
2) On Istvvan V- seriously you're wrong, Fulgrim uses Forgebreaker whilst Ferrus uses Fireblade
So what, did he steal it from ferrus? When they had their forge off they switched weapons. Manus used forgebreaker. Although it has been some time since I read the book. Perhaps I could have got them mixed up. Oh wait.... Nvm. I forgot ferrus broke fireblade and fulgrim DID take forgebreaker. Ah now I remember... Silly me.
So again, there is no Giant Adjustable Wrench, and no pink tights.... I wish the artists would get up to scratch on the book/model/codex descriptions and not let "Artistic license" give us so much concern.
Guys GW has never given chaos any form of artificer armor so this dosent surprise me that he is in terminator armor. now on to the vision issue im sure horus doesnt need to be able to see behind him because his senses are probablly crazy and he can feel the presense of the enemy. besides i honestly think that terminator looks bad ass not to menchin having terminator armor alows deepstriking so that could be something horus chose to sacrifice the vision for. besides im sure terminator armor has some sort of bonus like the fact that your head cant be cut off because their is no serperation of armor around the neck. look at marine armor standard has very limited head protection anything with enough force could snap the marines necks like twigs not to menchin that all it would take is a swoop of a sword swing and your head goes falling off. dont believe me look at the iron hands primarch didnt wear terminator armor guess what happend to him, if you guessed head got cut off you are right. so that is my oppinion have your own. also i would like to note it just looks bad ass
Well the Iron Hands elite ten personel guard to the Primarch all wore Terminator armour, Can you guess what happened to them? if you guessed they did a little song and dance, your wrong ^^
Plus you can deepstrike without Terminator armour on. Horus himself did so in Horus Rising, Dorn and his retuine in Flight of the Eisenstein, And Alpharius and co in Legion. And i get the whole armour having sensors everywhere etc etc, but does no one else really think of Primarchs as the exact kind of beings who would want to not have to be relying completely on sensors at their vulnerable points, and wouldnt want to personally be able to see whats going on. Sensors can be easily clouded after all
Plus you can deepstrike without Terminator armour on. Horus himself did so in Horus Rising, Dorn and his retuine in Flight of the Eisenstein, And Alpharius and co in Legion. And i get the whole armour having sensors everywhere etc etc, but does no one else really think of Primarchs as the exact kind of beings who would want to not have to be relying completely on sensors at their vulnerable points, and wouldnt want to personally be able to see whats going on. Sensors can be easily clouded after all
maybe but still gw doesnt give a form of artificer armor to chaos. maybe i should have read more on the iron hand guy i just remember seeing a pic of his body on the ground and some dude with his head.Well the Iron Hands elite ten personel guard to the Primarch all wore Terminator armour, Can you guess what happened to them? if you guessed they did a little song and dance, your wrong ^^
Plus you can deepstrike without Terminator armour on. Horus himself did so in Horus Rising, Dorn and his retuine in Flight of the Eisenstein, And Alpharius and co in Legion. And i get the whole armour having sensors everywhere etc etc, but does no one else really think of Primarchs as the exact kind of beings who would want to not have to be relying completely on sensors at their vulnerable points, and wouldnt want to personally be able to see whats going on. Sensors can be easily clouded after all
Oh he definetly got decapitated sure. But he was completely broken by this point and already beaten
actually been in terminator armour wouldn't really effect the peripheral vision of the wearer as a humans peripheral vision is only 180 degrees so something like this "D" so been in terminator armour wouldnt stop that.
also normal space marines with there enhanced senses can sense an enemy behind them, so if a normal marine can do that imagine how much better a primarch would be.
also been primarchs there armour is vastly superior to regular power and terminator armour
also normal space marines with there enhanced senses can sense an enemy behind them, so if a normal marine can do that imagine how much better a primarch would be.
also been primarchs there armour is vastly superior to regular power and terminator armour
Well apparently its just me then.
And i've been saying peripheral, supose what i should be saying is jut turning your head. If you want to look left, you turn your head, in Terminator armour, you turn your entire body, and still a little bit of peripheral would be cut off. Dont expect anyone to do it but imagine putting a cardboard box over yourself like you might have done as a kid, then cut a square out of the front for your face, now imagine having to spend all day, or weeks even having to turn your entire body everytime you wanted to look at whats happening over to you left or right, or to even simply speak to someone standing next to you.
And i've been saying peripheral, supose what i should be saying is jut turning your head. If you want to look left, you turn your head, in Terminator armour, you turn your entire body, and still a little bit of peripheral would be cut off. Dont expect anyone to do it but imagine putting a cardboard box over yourself like you might have done as a kid, then cut a square out of the front for your face, now imagine having to spend all day, or weeks even having to turn your entire body everytime you wanted to look at whats happening over to you left or right, or to even simply speak to someone standing next to you.
Or wear an iron halo with the screws that mount to your skull ... broken neck lots of fun.
Its going to be pretty much like that for dude in power armour they wont be able to see behind themselves much either, you think with the helmets visors been the way they are and the large power pack.
So i doubt termie armours visual performance is much less then power armour and when you have a primarch in termie armour i can imagine them been nigh unstoppable, they're nigh unstoppable in power armour let alone termie, plus termie seems far more intimidating
So i doubt termie armours visual performance is much less then power armour and when you have a primarch in termie armour i can imagine them been nigh unstoppable, they're nigh unstoppable in power armour let alone termie, plus termie seems far more intimidating
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