Yeah, I would like to stick with DA Codex as close as I can. It is hard to do that though with the TH/SS combo only good in cc compared to the standard SM Codex.Are you staying with Pure DW and using the DA Codex, or using the Stats from SM, BA or SW ones...makes a difference?
My above suggestion is the build I use for a shooty squad. My Assault Squads are
1 HF/CF, Banner/TLC's, 3 TLC's...led by Belial w/TLC's.
If you have 2 assault squads have a Chappy in one and the Banner/Belial in the second.
Every Assault squad should be in a LR, I like Crusaders...I don't like DWA because it just means you're allowing your enemy the chance to deal with each squad as it comes on.
I believe you can't put a banner in a terminator squad, sir. I hope I am mistaken, but I read and re-read the codex.I Run:
Belial in a squad with Assault cannon, Banner, Apoc, 2 TLCs in a LRC
Termi Chaplain in a squad with Assault cannon, 1 TH/SS, 3 TLCs in a LRC
Termi Squad with Cyclone and 1 TLCs
Termi squad with Cyclone and 1 TLCs
Termi Squad with Assault cannon, 2 TH/SS, 2 TLCs in a LR
2 Venerable Dreadnaughts, one with Assault cannon the other with TLLC.
It's expensive, but it sure rocks the battle field.
I don't agree about loading up a squad with Belial, the Chappy and the Banner...it's a very expensive unit for one thing, and is only targetting one enemy unit.Yeah, Unfortunately, Belial jsut doesn't put out the damage like other characters can. So it's best to put the banner and Apoc in a squad with a Chaplain and enoy massed attacks with re-rolls to hit. It's pretty nasty.
Belial is best thought of as a big sergeant.
I didn't think you could attach both chappy and Belial to one unit. I find the re-rolls are more effective than the extra attacks Belial provides, especially against large high toughness units.I don't agree about loading up a squad with Belial, the Chappy and the Banner...it's a very expensive unit for one thing, and is only targetting one enemy unit.
By having Belial and the Banner in one unit, and the Chappy in a second you have 2 capable units that can assault 2 different units...if each one can't handle their target in assault then that enemy unit hasn't been softened up enough with firepower beforehand, which should definitely have taken place, especially if it's 'pure' DW squads (small 5 - Men ones, plus IC).
That's how I roll anyway, experiences and opposition may vary.