[ntaw]

Looks like a lot of people are reading into this teaser from the upcoming WD as heralding a Deathwatch release in the coming week.

There's a lot of things that are black and silver, but Deathwatch fit the bill without hesitation (apparently). Natfka and BoLS both report that there's going to be a boxed game a la Execution Force/BaC:

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
-Had it confirmed today that the Black and Silver teaser is 100% Death Watch.

-I saw the release schedule tonight.....100% Deathwatch confirmed.

Womp. Salty to be sure, here's some old stuff that might just be resurfacing in the coming days with some truth or proven total wishlisting:

Previously a source who spoke to BoLS on condition of anonymity, said:

• Opposition force for the Deathwatch in the Boardgame is Tyranids.
• Look for Genestealers, Warriors, Lictors.
• There is a “box only” Lictor Character.
• As with Betrayal at Calth – these are standard 40K models fully usable outside the boardgame.
• There is chatter of potential Deathwatch op-for xenos expansions for the boardgame (Orks, etc…)

Recall that the earlier set of info on the boxed game was:

• Look for the Deathwatch to arrive in the Grimdark in 2016.
• They will make their initial appearance in a boxed boardgame like Execution Force / Betrayal at Calth.
• The Deathwatch models are based around a new Deathwatch upgrade sprue.
• The sprue will contain items such the distinctive shoulderpads, and specialist equipment and weapons of the Deathwatch.
• The Deathwatch sprue will be bundled atop the Sternguard base kit in the boardgame.
• The game will allow for you to equip your Killteam’s weapons and equipment in a variety of ways with rules to support them all.
• As with Betrayal at Calth – these are standard 40K models fully usable outside the boardgame.
• There will be an opposing force the Deathwatch is pitted against with their own models in the box.

What do you think, Heresy: are we looking at a Deathwatch mini-game or something else that's black and silver?

 

[Khorne's Fist]

It has been rumoured for a while. They are a pretty cool subject to base a game on. Hopefully it'll at least provide another great value box for someone just looking to expand their 40k force.

 

[R_Squared]

On Dakka, the opinion is the opponents maybe genestealer hybrids.
That would certainly get the cash out of my wallet.

 

[Khorne's Fist]

On Dakka, the opinion is the opponents maybe genestealer hybrids.
That would certainly get the cash out of my wallet.

That would be excellent. I thought we might see something a bit sooner when they started bringing out data slates.

 

[Xabre]

I guess I can see it, but at the same time, Black and Silver also fits War Zone Fenris. There's been lots of talk in the fluff on that book that the Dark Angels (Ravenwing is Black) and the Grey Knights (Silver) will be getting some love.

 

[Lord of the Night]

Rumours over on BOLS is that Genestealer cults are confirmed as the opponent to the Deathwatch. Apparantly the box will contain an unknown number of mono-pose (think the BAs in Space Hulk) Deathwatch marines that may or may not be chapter optional (one rumour says that one particular DW marine is GeeDubs first ever dedicated Blood Ravens mini) and a number of Hybrids, a few Purestrain and a brand new box-only Broodlord.


LotN

 

[ntaw]

It has been rumoured for a while.

Over a year, I'd wager. I would have posted before but it all just looked exclusively like wishlisting considering there were no picture leaks like what we had for Execution Force or Battle at Calth. This is the first time there's been any inclination from GW that it -might- be happening as far as I'm aware.

There's been lots of talk in the fluff on that book that the Dark Angels (Ravenwing is Black) and the Grey Knights (Silver) will be getting some love.

I'd rather this. The mini-games are....less than interesting to me. Not to mention I don't think we've seen a campaign release schedule interrupted by anything other than maybe AoS and this Wulfen business doesn't quite seem finished to me yet.

 

[Angel of Blood]

Ughhhh more Dangle love? Fuck that.

 

[ntaw]

Ughhhh more Dangle love? Fuck that.

Their Ravenwing Detachment saw some help in the form of a rare FAQ from GW recently, but I could see fancier Formation rules as something to go with that band-aid.

 

[Xabre]

Ughhhh more Dangle love? Fuck that.

TAU is rumored to be getting more, after getting two separate campaign books. In fact, it's not rumor anymore, it was spotted in White Dwarf, along with Ork updates.

So while I'm a little miffed that some codices are double dipping while others languish, I'll take it, if it means Grey Knights.

 

[SonofVulkan]

This happened on Facebook.

 

[Lord of the Night]

I am both impressed and disappointed. Impressed with the quality behind these Deathwatch sculpts. Disappointed by the lack of options for those of us who wanted to create their own Deathwatch kill-team, and are tired of only seeing the First Founding and occasionally the Second Founding represented in their ranks.

For those interested, the Deathwatch kill-team here is actually from the quick reads available on Black Library (The ones with the absolute WORST covers BL have ever revealed), and this is their line-up:

Ultramarines: Vael Donatus
Blood Angels: Antor Delassio
Dark Angels: Zameon Gydrael
Space Wolves: Drenn Redblade
Iron Hands: Ennox Sorrlock
White Scars: Jetek Suberei
Imperial Fists: Rodricus Grytt
Raven Guard: Edryc Setorax
Salamanders: Garran Branatar
Blood Raven: Jensus Natorian

I admit the Blood Raven is a really nice touch and that is the one that I would actually alter my own custom Kill-team, which I have already created, to include. The rest however, well really it's just unimaginative.


LotN

 

[ntaw]

Well, that seals it. Deathwatch it is!

Fuzzy pictures are bad to base an opinion off but those look pretty good to me.

 

[Tyriks]

Well, that seals it. Deathwatch it is!

Fuzzy pictures are bad to base an opinion off but those look pretty good to me.

It's clear enough to see they look better than the Wulfen.

So, I loosely understand what Deathwatch is, but why does it exist (fluff-wise)?

 

[Lord of the Night]

It's clear enough to see they look better than the Wulfen.

So, I loosely understand what Deathwatch is, but why does it exist (fluff-wise)?

The Deathwatch exist to be the commandos of the Space Marines in a way. The reason they exist is to undertake the secret missions that the Inquisition needs done, but can't trust a Chapter to perform because said Chapter would not accept Inquisitorial oversight. Plus too many people would become aware of it. The Deathwatch provides elite teams that can do the Ordo Xenos' dirty work.


LotN

 

[Tyriks]

The Deathwatch exist to be the commandos of the Space Marines in a way. The reason they exist is to undertake the secret missions that the Inquisition needs done, but can't trust a Chapter to perform because said Chapter would not accept Inquisitorial oversight. Plus too many people would become aware of it. The Deathwatch provides elite teams that can do the Ordo Xenos' dirty work.


LotN

Ah, thanks! So, how does one play them? Tiny games of one or two squads?

 

[Lord of the Night]

Ah, thanks! So, how does one play them? Tiny games of one or two squads?

Uh no. The Deathwatch are an elite choice for Space Marine armies, and I imagine soon all Imperial armies. These ones might actually be very useful as an allied formation to an Imperial army, i.e Guard or Mechanicus.


LotN

 

[Xabre]

Uh no. The Deathwatch are an elite choice for Space Marine armies, and I imagine soon all Imperial armies. These ones might actually be very useful as an allied formation to an Imperial army, i.e Guard or Mechanicus.


LotN

Actually, right now Deathwatch don't exist with any sort of in game rules. Sternguard are an Elites Choice for SM, and are the units that most closely are considered to match what Deathwatch would be.

There is one Apocalypse Formation right now that's a Deathwatch Kill Team, and literally is a bunch of Sternguard with a chaplain. But aside from that, they've never had in-game rules.

We don't know if this will even offer in game rules or not. What you may end up with is a single Formation made up of the individual models with specific wargear. Kind of like running 'The Eight' for Tau.

 

[Lord of the Night]

Actually, right now Deathwatch don't exist with any sort of in game rules. Sternguard are an Elites Choice for SM, and are the units that most closely are considered to match what Deathwatch would be.

There is one Apocalypse Formation right now that's a Deathwatch Kill Team, and literally is a bunch of Sternguard with a chaplain. But aside from that, they've never had in-game rules.

We don't know if this will even offer in game rules or not. What you may end up with is a single Formation made up of the individual models with specific wargear. Kind of like running 'The Eight' for Tau.

Dafuq?! Really?? Well then this game had better offer those rules, because I damn well want to field a pair of Kill-teams, or one bigger team, as an elite ally to my Mechanicus ingame.


LotN

 

[Xabre]

Dafuq?! Really?? Well then this game had better offer those rules, because I damn well want to field a pair of Kill-teams, or one bigger team, as an elite ally to my Mechanicus ingame.


LotN

I think the book was called War Zone Damnos, and it allowed you to field a Deathwatch Kill Team. It was one of the more balanced Apocalypse Formations for regular games; mostly just Sternguard that also had specialist ammo to kill Necrons. Otherwise it was all the standard special ammo. And a Chaplain. There may have been the option for Vet Vanguard on top of Sternguard? Can't remember.

It's possible that they may release a 'Deathwatch' datasheet. However, I can't see it. With this particular sprue, it's not the old fashioned upgrade kit. The models are so very specific.

Plus, it's obvious they're trying to push the idea that Deathwatch are made out of different types of models (there's a Vanguard, some Sternguard, a Heavy Bolter, a Vet Sergeant, a Champion), so how could you build something like that out of a datasheet?