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Wow wow wowsy wow.

After the recent dross released which haven't done anything for the story Deathfire comes right back with an excellent story which had me reading with glee until the very last page and the last page hit me right between the eyes in a way that only Fulgrim did before hand.

I was truly expecting the story to end on a cliffhanger with Numeon dying and nothing else happening but Vulkans return just made me "oh my god" out loud.

The battles throughout the novel are very well done and especially the ones at the end on Nocture itself.

I loved Thiel's Red Marked Ultramarines. I hope he/they get more air time and we get to see which if any Chapter he founds at the 2nd Founding.

The traitors are presented well too and the Death Guard get some much needed fleshing out and showing just how evil they are.

All in all we need more novels like this.
 

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No it isn't sarcastic, I genuinely loved it from start to finish.
 

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I'm literally laughing at the reaction to this thread. In my head "finally, a positive sounding review of a HH novel!" then came the responses :laugh:
 

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For the record, I am actually pretty stoked to see something positive about a HH book. I do love my 30/40k, regardless of whether each book is a NYT Bestseller or not. I also don't care about the chronology of events, so if I see a good review I'm more inclined to skip to that book.
 

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Very funny thread with the genuinely contrasting opinions. We all perceive reality differently.

I for one hope Horus doesn't make it to Terra any time soon. From my perspective the journey (including legion and individual development) is far more interesting than the destination. After all we know what happens.

For those who are frustrated with the pace of story development be careful what you wish for. What comes next? The Scouring? ... Doesn't exactly get me excited.
 

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Very funny thread with the genuinely contrasting opinions.
I see no opinions other than the first... I would like to hear exactly why people didn't like the book, but they wouldn't care to indulge us.

I've enjoyed almost all of the books I've read. Sure, some are better than others, but I've never looked to anything the Black Library produces for fantastic literature.

When I buy a 40K/Horus heresy book, I'm looking for cool environments, brutal fight descriptions, and a degree of cheesy epicness. So far, they have all succeeded.
 

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You have me in stitches. Genius post
 

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I see no opinions other than the first... I would like to hear exactly why people didn't like the book, but they wouldn't care to indulge us.
The general consensus is that Kyme is not a very good writer, and the book is very badly written. But it was well discussed elsewhere.

so if I see a good review I'm more inclined to skip to that book.
So you'd rather believe the one good review over the ten bad ones? That's kind of blinkered. The fact is that there is a massive consensus that this is one of the worst HH novels, and in my humble opinion possibly one of the worst BL novels to date. But the beauty of opinions is we all have our own.
 

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TBH I really don't care if:

A - You feel it was well discussed - I've read that thread and it's mostly a bunch of negative opinions on Nick Kyme and his stories, non of which I agree with. There were some positive opinions which I agreed with but I'm not going to join in the arguments there.
B - You dislike the book - I enjoyed the plot, I thought the characterisation was done well and enjoyed the storyline. You're all free to dislike the book, that's your opinions and that's fine.

As a final thought I think this thread just shows how this forum has developed. IMO it's no longer a place where I feel my opinion is welcome. That's fine, no-one forces me to come here. It's like I have a morbid fascination on what people are hating on now that keeps me coming back here. However at least I now have the evidence on what happens if I post something which dares to break from the general consensus of hate which seems to pervade these forums now.
 

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I think you're way off base. Go look at the discussions re The First Heretic, A Thousand Sons, Betrayer, or Know No Fear. By and large they are all very positive. However, most people are of the opinion that the series has taken a bit of a nose dive lately.

You disagree. Fine. But don't throw a hissyfit just because you think people are hating. We're not hating for the sake of it, we're hating on something we see as subpar and was only churned out to keep revenue flowing, rather than trying to advance the storyline of a series that most of us have invested years, hundreds of €/£/$, and not a small amount of emotion in. Forgive us if we feel we have a right to call foul when we feel let down.
 
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