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Updated FAQs for some armies are out

Grab em here

Seems to be Fliers only updates and a cheap way to force people into buying that new fliers compendium.

Oh look, the Death From the Skies FAQ is out, before anyone has even received the book...
New record?

Death From the Skies FAQ

Here are ALL the updates from all the updated FAQs.
Rulebook Update:
Reference Section – Profile, Codex: Space Marines –
Vehicles, Stormtalon Gunship.
Change unit type to Vehicle (Flyer, Hover).

Q: Land Speeder Storms, Stormraven Gunships and
Stormtalon Gunships are all listed as Space Marine vehicles
in the Reference section. Does this mean that every Space
Marine Chapter now has access to these vehicles as well (i.e .
Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Grey Knights etc.)? (p411)
A: No – you may only select units and vehicles that are
available in the army list section of your codex. The two
exceptions are the Stormtalon and Stormraven Gunships,
which are only available to armies chosen from Codex:
Space Marines and Codex: Black Templars. The rules for these
Flyers can be found in the Death From the Skies
compendium.

Ork Update:
White Dwarf June 2012 (WD390)
Updated rules for the Ork Dakkajet, Burna-bommer and Blitzabommer
can be found in the Death From the Skies compendium.

Space Marines Update:
White Dwarf June 2012 (UK WD390)
Updated rules for the Stormtalon Gunship and Stormraven
Gunship can be found in the Death From the Skies compendium.

Blood Angels Update:
Page 38/94 – Stormraven Gunships, Skies of Blood.
Replace this rule with the following:
Skies of Fury: If the Stormraven has moved more than 6",
passengers can still disembark, but they must do so as follows:
Nominate any point over which the Stormraven moved that
turn and deploy the squad as if it were deep striking onto that
point. If the unit scatters, every disembarking model must
immediately take a Dangerous Terrain test. If any of the
models cannot be deployed, the entire unit is destroyed, as per
a Terrible Accident result on the Deep Strike Mishap table.
Models that disembark using the Skies of Fury special rule
cannot charge in the turn that they do so.

Page 38/94 – Stormraven Gunship, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.

Q:What happens to an embarked Dreadnought that suffers an
Immobilised result from the hit when the Stormraven it is
embarked in Explodes? (p37)
A: The Immobilised Dreadnought is placed within 3" of the
large blast marker, as per the Crash and Burn rules.

Dark Eldar Update:
Page 46/93 – Razorwing Jetfighter, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.

Page 47/93 – Voidraven Bomber, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.

Grey Knights Update:
Page 37/93 – Stormraven Gunships, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.

Page 37/93 – Stormraven Gunships, Shadow Skies.
Replace this rule with the following:

Skies of Fury: If the Stormraven has moved more than 6",
passengers can still disembark, but they must do so as follows:
Nominate any point over which the Stormraven moved that
turn and deploy the squad as if it were deep striking onto that
point. If the unit scatters, every disembarking model must
immediately take a Dangerous Terrain test. If any of the
models cannot be deployed, the entire unit is destroyed, as per
a Terrible Accident result on the Deep Strike Mishap table.
Models that disembark using the Skies of Fury special rule
cannot charge in the turn that they do so.

Q:What happens to an embarked Dreadnought that suffers an
Immobilised result from the hit when the Stormraven it is
embarked in Explodes? (p37)
A: The Immobilised Dreadnought is placed within 3" of the
large blast marker, as per the Crash and Burn rules.

Imperial Guard Update:
Page 56/101 – Valkyrie Assault Carrier, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike and Scout special rules.

Page 56/101 – Vendetta Gunship, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike and Scout special rules.

Necrons Update:
Page 50/95 – Doom Scythe, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.

Page 51/91 – Night Scythe, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.
 

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The change to dreadnoughts not being removed outright from immobilized results after a Stormraven gets blown up is a pretty nice gesture. I guess it reflects that the immobilization could have occurred on landing as opposed to in the blast.

Ultimately, just an update to make you want to read the new Fliers book for sure. Oh, and let's not forget the ultimate change of the names of Shadow Skies and Skies of Blood to Skies of Fury. Shiver me tits.
 

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Knew I should have posted here instead of General 40K. But it only applies to that game and I still beat you to it. Heehee. :victory:
 

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Question: Does this new ruling, the Skies of Fury, mean that Grey Knight Interceptors no longer have their incredibly precise descent?
 

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Question: Does this new ruling, the Skies of Fury, mean that Grey Knight Interceptors no longer have their incredibly precise descent?
GW "Who knows, we do have this awesome new book about fliers out! Maybe the answer can be found in it?!"

 

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Then I shall pretend to be interested in purchasing the book long enough to browse 'random' pages that coincidentally have the answer to my question. ;)

...Of course it'll probably be shrinkwrapped >.<
 

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Question: Does this new ruling, the Skies of Fury, mean that Grey Knight Interceptors no longer have their incredibly precise descent?
Unit special/specific rules that apply during Deep Strike still apply. Descent of Angels affects Blood Angel jump units whether they Deep Strike or disembark as if Deep Striking. So they still scatter only D6. Of course, even jump units take dangerous tests now if they scatter. So much for Jump Packs slowing the drop. So if the Interceptors had the rule it still applies.
 

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Interceptors don't have any special abilities if they are Deep Striking so given their precise decent isn't part of the rule any more they don't get it any more.
 

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The change to dreadnoughts not being removed outright from immobilized results after a Stormraven gets blown up is a pretty nice gesture. I guess it reflects that the immobilization could have occurred on landing as opposed to in the blast.
I just had a giggle thinking of a Dreadnought tumbling out of the sky, bouncing along the ground and landing in a heap, then getting up shakily and grumpily dusting himself off. "Never again... Sarcophagus smells like puke now..."

Vendettas without 'Scout' is a sad but necessary change. No more swooping in from the flank and penetrating a Predator on a 3+. I wonder if Death from the Skies changed up the points value.
 

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I just had a giggle thinking of a Dreadnought tumbling out of the sky, bouncing along the ground and landing in a heap, then getting up shakily and grumpily dusting himself off. "Never again... Sarcophagus smells like puke now..."
"Emperor be praised, but this never gets easier..." :giggle:

I'll be hitting up the local GW on Tuesday to check this thang out.
 

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So this was pointed out on another forum and after looking it seemed worth mentioning:

The wording of the FAQs and inclusion of the Storm Talon on the BT products page suggests they're getting more than just the Raven.
or that they will be merged with the next SM book as has been rumoured...
 

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CSM didn't get an update in this batch, so yes it's still the same as last month which means it can still poop fire 360 degrees, measured from the base.
I get that it's a big mechanical demon-dragon and still want to get to get one but 360 degrees did seem a bit overkill, maybe 180. Though I guess being a demon-dragon it probably would spit fire at whatever it vector-struck...

Vendettas without 'Scout' is a sad but necessary change. No more swooping in from the flank and penetrating a Predator on a 3+. I wonder if Death from the Skies changed up the points value.
Creative maneuvering to the rescue! I could still see getting good shots off anyway. Just happy that it's entry vector is a bit more predictable.
 

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I'm curious to know if there are any points changes, the Ork fliers are way too expensive for what they do whilst the IG ones are too cheap (perhaps even the Necron Nightscythe).

If there are no points changes and such then what's the point?

-But but you get the rules from WDs!

Which should have been a free pdf! You telling me I can buy this cool flier but can't use it in the game without buying this new book? A book that doesn't seem to be that supported by GW as it's in english only.

I fail to see the point of this book, a way to get the rules from the WDs is a really shitty argument. It's blatant moneygrubbing and an attempt to leech as much money as possible out of people.

How official is this thing really? English only means it's pretty much unsupported, so when exactly are you suppose to use it? When you wanna use the Ork Bomma and Skytalon (or whatever it's called)! Again the "I bought this awesome model but now I gotta buy a book just to be able to use it?" argument pops up in my head.
It makes an expensive model that's not that good even more expensive to buy.

I will take a look at the PDF once it pops up next week, unless there are points changes and wargear updates this thing is rather pointless imo. Even if there are, this thing just feels "unofficial". Like another supplement no one will ever play with because it deviates from normal gameplay and makes things "unbalanced".

It just feels like a scam to me...

I could of course be wrong and this thing is awesome...

A book that is "needed" if you want to use the Ork or SM flier yet it's only supported in English.
 
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