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I Just picked up the Space Marine Codex this week and while reading it I had a couple of thoughts.
1. It seems that the only difference between SM armies built with this Dex will be the paint job on the armor.
2. The army list in the Dex says that it is primaraly designed for Codex chapters, specifically the Ultra Marines or their successor chapters. I have a DA army, will this Dex even be usefull?
Any thoughts?
-Erich
 

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i'm not quite sure on what your asking but if it was i think it is then io wouldn't bother. Dark Angels all ready have there own Codex (tho not the best) and i belive they were first chapture to get there own.

The point is that the normal marine codex will do very little in helping you.
 

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Since the DA codex is "outdated", i would say use the SM codex till a new DA one comes out :wink:
 

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it will be useful if you want new toys and want to keep a DA themed army.

you get bikes as troops with a captain on bike and still make him special with special ammo and a relic blade (and unlike the master of the ravenwing he can join a unit)

you get Mortis dreadnoughts (or at least 1 variant) which were missed out the DA codex, which is strange since the DA are the only chapter to use them but now ultratwats can as well.

your terminators can't be troops and you cant't mix equipment, but you can still have 6 squads of 5 with combat squadding.

you still get company vets with stern/vanguard

your scouts are in the proper slots.

you get the redeemer

and lots more, theres no real good reason to use the DA codex over the marine one, the marine one does everything and more, and only misses scoring terminators (which ain't all that useful with the amount of AP2 weapons laying around) and shitty special characters which you can make yourself
 

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you could always have the ultimate insult and play dark angels with the space wolf codex....MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

although in my head replacing all wolves with lions looks good to my imagination.
 

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And have a SW player try to beat you to death with the brb.
 

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Plus you get the ThunderFire cannon, Master of the Forge, and you could field Legion of the Damned squads if you want.
 

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But, as GW said when asked about the differences between Codicies, if your opponent has no issues with it, then you can always use the DA 'dex, but use the updated rules for wargear from C:SM. OK, it is a pain that you will need two books, but it is certainly do-able. I've always wondered why folk who want to play DA at tournaments, but say they're weak, don't just ask the TO to allow this DA-C:SM mix. It would, seemingly, sort out all of the issues. It is a solution at least as GW-sanctioned as the FAQs.

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I'd use the DA codex, but that's just me. I enjoy the modularity of the Veterans Squad over the Stern/Van-guard squads of the new codex.

Or if you like Terminators.
 

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But, as GW said when asked about the differences between Codicies, if your opponent has no issues with it, then you can always use the DA 'dex, but use the updated rules for wargear from C:SM. OK, it is a pain that you will need two books, but it is certainly do-able. I've always wondered why folk who want to play DA at tournaments, but say they're weak, don't just ask the TO to allow this DA-C:SM mix. It would, seemingly, sort out all of the issues. It is a solution at least as GW-sanctioned as the FAQs.

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*takes an army consisting entirely of 2+/3++ models with Thunder Hammers with Apothecaries granting FNP*
Not broken at all :D
 

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So I stated out my DA army using the new SM dex and I was able to do just about everything I had been able to do. For 125 points less too.
The only thing I seem to have lost is the Deathwing Assault, and I can live with that.

On another note, am I correct in thinking that terminators cannot use a drop pod?

-Erich
 

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On another note, am I correct in thinking that terminators cannot use a drop pod?

-Erich
Terminators CAN use Drop Pods, but units of them can't take one as a Dedicated Transport; since you can't take them any other way, they cannot be mounted in them.
An IC wearing Terminator Armour can join a unit which owns one though, and get inside.

Space Wolf Terminators can take Drop Pods, since they're pussies and don't like teleporting.
 

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I've started a small Angels of Absolution army using the standard SM codex. I kinda had to because I'm doing the 10th (scout) company and Scouts as elites really doesn't work for that. Plus I like Vanguard & Sternguard Vets. It's perfectly fine to use it for a DA army unless you want some of specialist fomations.
 

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You can totally use the SM book for a DA force...Stella said it best, I think. I only use the DA book if I'm doing one of the Wing armies.

If you end up using the vanilla dex, take Cato Sicarius for extra points.
 

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The point about the DA Termies getting the C:SM rules and making them uber-hard is a definite. But, the Community can't have it both ways. Either they are happy that they get what's in the DA book and play with that OR they can get the local players/TOs to OK the use of DA+C:SM and get something that's going to wreck the legs off many things. I mean, if the DA book is that weak, then surely adding to it is OK? And you'd still get access to all of the DA units but with updated weapons.
So, maybe this should have been the first paragraph; I'm unsure as to why the folk who find C:DA to be too weak aren't spearheading the use of C:SM and combining them. Hell, if we are going to use FAQs then this is just as 'legal' as it's GW-approved. I know that needing 2 books is a pain, but wouldn't using both give the DA the ultimately flexible army? Am I being unfair and there are a lot of tournaments out there combining the 2 books?

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